Bow? D? Jate?

yes i have done a search and can't find wot i want to know!!!

whats the difference beyween a bow shackle, a D shackle and a jate ring?
I need to fit some recovery points to my disco, whats the best to use, how many and where do i shove em???

Cheers

Google??
jate ring

bow shackle

d shackle

Two on front and two on rear, jate ring's are normally left permanently attached to chassis, the other two are handy for attaching tow ropes to the jate rings.

Dewin said:

Google??
jate ring

bow shackle

d shackle

Two on front and two on rear, jate ring's are normally left permanently attached to chassis, the other two are handy for attaching tow ropes to the jate rings.

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Google?? Whats that? do i need one? LOl
are jate rings a standard size? do they fit on existing holes?

Not sure on the sizes, but some won't fit if you've got tow bar bracket's or a steering guard fitted to the same mounting point's, have a look on fleabay ... quite a few there.

Jate rings go where the lashing eyes are currently mounted. Only buy forged Jate rings, not the welded ones.

new ones on ebay £16.49 each, paddocks £19.50 a pr. both forged, paddocks deliver free as well

Heavy Breather said:

yes i have done a search and can't find wot i want to know!!!

whats the difference beyween a bow shackle, a D shackle and a jate ring?
I need to fit some recovery points to my disco, whats the best to use, how many and where do i shove em???

Cheers

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seems you got the answer for the jate rings part, although ive got welded from paddocks and they seem ok(although everyone sez that till they go wrong!!!).The jate rings are what you recover from, other recovery points are availible, the shackles are what you use to connect your recovery point to ya rope/strop/tatty bit of string. The shackle shape determins what its called, d being in a D shape, bow not really in the shape of a bow but more like a rounded c I didi name em!Any way there was avid on here a few months bak saying "Only a dunce would recover using a D shackle" Dunno why. I use a D shackle over me 500 mm tow ball
And bow shackles on the front, on me steerig guard and jate rings before that.Think bow shackles are les likely to crumple flat strops up

Twotting computer!!!!! half way through a reply and it shuts down to configure!!!!!!!

OK so i need 4 forged jate rings big enough to go over the steering guard (that i've not got yet) and over the tow bar bracket, a D shackle to go over my ball, thats 5 recovery points,,,,ropes or strops??? 8m 12 tonne? 2? 1 front and 1 back or 1 on each corner?

goonarmy said:

seems you got the answer for the jate rings part, although ive got welded from paddocks and they seem ok(although everyone sez that till they go wrong!!!).The jate rings are what you recover from, other recovery points are availible, the shackles are what you use to connect your recovery point to ya rope/strop/tatty bit of string. The shackle shape determins what its called, d being in a D shape, bow not really in the shape of a bow but more like a rounded c I didi name em!Any way there was avid on here a few months bak saying "Only a dunce would recover using a D shackle" Dunno why. I use a D shackle over me 500 mm tow ball

And bow shackles on the front, on me steerig guard and jate rings before that.Think bow shackles are les likely to crumple flat strops up

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I must be a dunce toothen, cos I use D shackles to attatch my strop to my tow ball. It's the best way of making sure it won't fly off the ball.

main difference between a bow shackle and a 'd' shackle is the shape, bow shackles are used more for lifting spread loads as you can fill the bow up with more slings, a 'd' shackle is usually used with a single sling.
bow shackles are usually 'alloy bow shackles' and are made of alloy this gives more strength for a smaller size. 'd' shackles are usually high tensile steel and lift less for a given size.
there are loads of variations to these though so it's more of a case of knowing what you need and what to look for.

tis all to do with the direction of pull !

Sean said:

tis all to do with the direction of pull !

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I only pull in one direction.

ratty said:

I only pull in one direction.

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would that be pulling away from the aisle ?

gegs88 said:

main difference between a bow shackle and a 'd' shackle is the shape, bow shackles are used more for lifting spread loads as you can fill the bow up with more slings, a 'd' shackle is usually used with a single sling.
bow shackles are usually 'alloy bow shackles' and are made of alloy this gives more strength for a smaller size. 'd' shackles are usually high tensile steel and lift less for a given size.
there are loads of variations to these though so it's more of a case of knowing what you need and what to look for.

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If i wasn't confused before i am now

So bow shackles are stronger? much difference between strops and ropes? other than ones flat and tother ain't?

Heavy Breather said:

So bow shackles are stronger? much difference between strops and ropes? other than ones flat and tother ain't?

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tis got nowt to do with strength - different shackles for different applications

some are single direction load bearing and some are multi direction

read this

Shackle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Heavy Breather said:

So bow shackles are stronger? much difference between strops and ropes? other than ones flat and tother ain't?

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I use strops cos they're easier to store and where they're flat I can leave em attached while keeping them inside my landy and still shut my door.

Ropes have some 'give', strops don't, unless they're KERRs ...

Series71 said:

would that be pulling away from the aisle ?

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Tis much simpler to just avoid any aisles.

ratty said:

I use strops cos they're easier to store and where they're flat I can leave em attached while keeping them inside my landy and still shut my door.

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Now that makes sense, strops it is