Baby seats in the load area

Hi all,
To cut a long story short i need a seat in the back of my 90 that i can strap in my 2 year olds car seat. Exmoor trim do a seat but for £495? yeah right! Do any of you guru's know of anywhere else i can get a forward facing seat at a more sensible cost that i can safely fit a child seat to?
I don't quite understand why you cant fit one to exmoors normal forward facing rear seat for £116??
Puzzled.

It's folding seats yer talking about mucka - only one that's been 'tested', whatever the feck that means, is the Exmoor one. No reason at all that you shouldn't fit more or less any other front facing seat (non-folding) to the load bay - it's the seat belt and anchor points that take the load in a crash not the seat anyway.

Main reason, I can see, for not fitting their standard folding seat is no-one has any idea how it will affect the baby seat or seat belts in a collision - (along the lines of crash helmets "If you've only got a £50 head, buy a £50 helmet - only all crack hats have to pass testing before they're approved).

It dunt lock down. Their 116 notes jobbies fold down and stay down due to your weight on them. The pucker ones lock down so wouldn't fold up in a crash I guess.

Do what I'm doing. Put yer wee one's seat in the front & get the adult (Mrs or whatever!) in the rear seat. My girl does, behind the dog guard an' all!

Other way of looking at it £495 - £116 = £379. How much is yer kid worth & could you forgive yerself?

I have recently fitted a pair of exmoors £116 rear seats and im just on with putting seatbelts in, fitted a pair of 3 point harnesses in the front so the old seatbelts have been removed and fitted in the rear and work perfectly, modifications,the top mounting bracket needs 1/2" grinding off, new holes drilling in the rear and the top mounting brackets fit on opposite sides(front left fits rear right and so on) not a big job.

Cheers guys,
I have two kiddies and i can't get both in the front! So one has to go in the back. At the moment it's looking like i will have to buy the 'tested' lock down seat. Other than that i am wondering whether it is possible to bolt down a supposed forward facing fold up highback seat so it remains rigid.
Surely there must be others who have been in the same situation, what did they all do before exmoor came up with this wonder seat?
The only other option is buying a 110 bus! which i don't want. Looks like i might have to bite the bullet and spend £500 spondulas!

There's the kind of 'crocodile effect' to think about, the way a folding seat can snap shut like jaws in an impact, spesh' a cheap one. If you're going to bolt something down immovably you might be better off buying a substantial car seat from a scrappy or fleabay. Simple enuff bolting it to the wheel box & fabricating a frame from angle bar for the side that is towards the middle of the Landy.

I have the rear seats from the luggage space of a Disco TD5 if anyone is interested.

Silly-arse place to put seats anyway.

I have a big metal box you could weld into the back to store the kids in safely

Nah, the space is too valuable, i do however have a roofrack down the back of the garden. Now the sunny weather is nearly here i could rig them up on the roof. Sure would be quiter on a journey!

wah said:

Nah, the space is too valuable, i do however have a roofrack down the back of the garden. Now the sunny weather is nearly here i could rig them up on the roof. Sure would be quiter on a journey!

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Save all the hassle just get a taxi to follow you

If you fit the kids on the roof rack use rearward facing seats, as that type of seating is much safer, with the added benefits of saving you the bother of wasting good beer-time dead flies out of their eyes, and them hyper-ventilating due to the high-speed air pressurising their lungs.

Can't be too careful these days.

Safety First!

Did you consider a trailer for the kids?

Make one with no windows of course, so they don't get distracted during the drive while they play with their GameBoys.

CharlesY

CharlesY said:

Did you consider a trailer for the kids?

Make one with no windows of course, so they don't get distracted during the drive while they play with their GameBoys.

CharlesY

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Feck it just leave the buggers a home with the missus. Then you can get out and enjoy the drive instead of having 2 brats and a wimim whining in yer ear all the time.

redhand said:

Feck it just leave the buggers a home with the missus. Then you can get out and enjoy the drive instead of having 2 brats and a wimim whining in yer ear all the time.

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Yeah, you can have a great day then. Tarmac a few drives, collect yer giro, get ****ed up, go home and slap her about a bit, all without the need fer another car seat.

Marcus said:

Yeah, you can have a great day then. Tarmac a few drives, collect yer giro, get ****ed up, go home and slap her about a bit, all without the need fer another car seat.

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Don't do giro's but the rest sounds about right What life AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH.

Just an update as to what i did to solve the problem.
In the end i got hold of two 'mini bus' seats with built in seat belts. I removed the legs. There were four bolts and nuts that held the legs on and the bolts were inserted into rails underneath the seat. I then drilled four holes in the wheel arches in line with the seat rails for the bolts to pass through. I then went to a steel factory and got some guy to make me four thick steel plates with holes in the same size as the bolts, painted them with hammerite. getting someone to hold the seats in place the bolts pass through the holes and through the steel reinforcing plate and nuts tightened.
I have been using them now for nearly a year and the kids love it, they are rigid and even adults sit in them, sturdy as ever. because an adults head is level with the lip of the roof panel you can then buy some pipelagging and slip it onto it for padding.
I will try and get some pictures on for anyone else in the same situation not wanting to spend a grand on two lock and loads!

I got two seats off ebay (they was advertised on ere as Landrover seats but apparently thy came off of a transit accordin to Yella) which fit nicely between the wheel arches - only thing it means you have to pass the babies into em over the rear bulkhead but that's ok while they're less than 3 and 1! Also means it's a bit of a faff gettin em (the seats) in and out coz you gotta bolt em through the floor but if i want the squidgy bits in the back it's the only way (other than spendin £500 - they only cost £25!) and they got built in seatbelts.

Hi Odenne,
I was going to do that but i mounted mine on the rear arches facing forward. You can get about two thirds of the seat onto the arch and with enough bolts they stay secure. My built in belts had the reel sitting below the seat base so the overhang allows for it. I had to swap round one of the belts to the other side of the seat.
If you remove the legs from your seats you probably have two rails that the bolt heads can slide along, all you need to do is slide two of those bolts inwards about a third of the way along the rail and it should make it as far as the wheel arch. You might have to remove the plastic back off the seat if it has one and trim it to accomodate the arch.
I will try and post some pics when i get my landy back from repair

I put the two kids in the front so they are safe and put the wife in the back on a folding seat.

ive spent months looking fer seats an the only rear load ones that are tested to m1 available in britain are the exmoor ones
to quote yella what price yer kids life
ive just paid the 900 quids fer them and cant afford my respray but i got peice o mind
anything that isnt tested and approved is a compromise and aint worth the risk