200 / 300 tdi into a SerIII Who to ask?

If I wanted to pay somone to supply and fit a 200 / 300 tdi into my LWB SerIII landy, Who would be the best people to talk to and anyone got a rough idea how much it would cost ???



Thanks JJ

Glencoyne engineering for advice etc. absolutely anyone who's reasonably handy with a set of spanners can do the swap..

If you take it to a landy garage you'll be lucky to get change from a grand.

redhand said:

If you take it to a landy garage you'll be lucky to get change from a grand.

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Is that supply and fit ?

I dont have a garage so I doubt I could do this kind of thing with out a garage or off road parking :-(

dvb668w said:

Is that supply and fit ?

I dont have a garage so I doubt I could do this kind of thing with out a garage or off road parking :-(

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Supply one urself. you should be able to pick up a 200tdi for around £250-ish. you can swap in on the road, engine out one day and prepare for the new one, new one in the next day. cheapest way. and if you buy a 200 with a rotted disco round it you can scrap it for money.

MudHunter said:

Supply one urself. you should be able to pick up a 200tdi for around £250-ish. you can swap in on the road, engine out one day and prepare for the new one, new one in the next day. cheapest way. and if you buy a 200 with a rotted disco round it you can scrap it for money.

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You'd have to be one **** hot mechanic to do a 200Tdi conversion in 2 days or a ruthless botchmaster.

I guess there cant be many companies that offer engine conversions out there?

OK so is it a simple swap, I did hear there was lots of work around getting the turbo to fit? If I were lucky to find a place to do it I would probably book a week off work, But knowing me it would take 2 LOL

why not buy this

series 3 200 tdi short wheel base county land rover swb on eBay (end time 27-Jun-10 21:36:58 BST)

although "the chassis is very sound apart from a bit of welding to back crossmember "
and "the 200tdi engine is fitted on the mounts but does to be plumbed and wired up to get runing the turbo rad and intercooler needs fitting which are all in the back of land rover"

So not many of the difficult bits left then!

Nice idea but let me see...

its a 360 mile round trip

I would guess the reason the turbo etc is still to be fitted is the fact that it wont fit (one of the big issues of the conversion so I hear)

No way of getting it home

No where to park it when I got home

and once I got it back no time to complete it....

But a nice idea all the same

dvb668w said:

OK so is it a simple swap, I did hear there was lots of work around getting the turbo to fit?

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To fit a 200 from a Discovery you will have to notch the chassis to clear the turbo and modify the engine mount on that side as it is a very tight fit.

Plumbing the intercooler and the radiator (plus header) tank will need a mixture of hoses and some head scratching. The air filter box can be a pain to find room for as well.

Don't forget fuel piping too; there is additional work if you are converting from a petrol.

You could make up a custom exhaust using some of the Discovery system (if it is not too rotten as well) and a mixture of other bends from an exhaust supplier or........pay Steve Parker £300-ish for a full stainless system.

Finally there is the wiring to consider.

I would estimate about £1200 for me to do it. That would include the 200 engine from a Discovery. The engine would get a new cam belt and a new rear crank seal. There would be additional cost depending upon other options, eg custom versus SP exhaust. I prefer to be given the Land Rover with the old engine still in situ and there are some parts that will need to be re-used.

PM if you want to discuss this further, as I am in danger of crossing the line into spam

sorry to hitch a ride in your post. What is the best engine/ easiest to put into a series 3 to replace a 2.25 petrol?

laruler said:

sorry to hitch a ride in your post. What is the best engine/ easiest to put into a series 3 to replace a 2.25 petrol?

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A good one!

I refer the honourable gentleman to the answers given previously.

Hi Andy, Yep will be PM ing you as soon as I can work out how

OK, open question. How would such a setup compare to a 200tdi 110 ?

I have parabolic springs, over drive and lots of sound proofing etc

Thanks JJ

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Hi Andy, Yep will be PM ing you as soon as I can work out how

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300tdi means u dnt have to notch chassis from memory, as the turbo doesnt catch

109party said:

300tdi means u dnt have to notch chassis from memory, as the turbo doesnt catch

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...but you have to weld new mounts onto the chassis as they are in a different place to the 200.

Swings and roundabouts.

welding up engine in different places is surly better than notching the chassis,
and where its notched on front impact that will be the weak spot.

109party said:

where its notched on front impact that will be the weak spot.

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I am only talking about a piece about 50mm x 30mm x 100mm.

The 'notching' is required only on one side of the chassis. The overall depth after the 'notching' is still as least as much as the SWB chassis (which I would assume is not weak in a front impact).

...as I say....swings and roundabouts.

Hi All,
I've done a mental review of what work I would need / like to include along with a engine swap. My Gearbox isn't the best and I'd like to sound proof the engine bay. All this would take the conversion to around 2k, a bit out of my budget at the mo :-(

But I still think a 200 300 tdi in a Ser III has got to come close to a 110 with the same engine, its still at the top of my land rover wish list !!

Thanks for all the advice, I've book marked some web sites for future ref

Better get a deffy then.
300 tdi turbos dont catch the chassis rail, but the air going out from the housing catches the wing support plate.

Theres an idea, instead of spending a year fitting a tdi, another front axle, another rear axle, suspension springs, etc etc, rather than buy a series and make it a deffy, why not buy a deffy and make it a series, get the deffy and put a series front end and dash on, all done.

Hi,
You have a very good point re just buying a 110. I had a 2.5 petrol 110 some time ago and it was a nice ride but I do like the simplicity of the 109, easy to work on, cheap parts etc. Plus I would have to sell the 109 to get a 110 (cant have 2 landys, well couldn't get away with owning 2) and I'm not ready to part with the current one

2 Landys..... Maybe its time to take the other half out for dinner