2 stroke oil in diesel

About to use some in my td4, hoping to get my miles back up from the winter lows of 350 a tank. Sitting on 420 but the lights just came on. Shall fill up the tank with the oil then go the BP for the Ultimate diesel.

Have a tescos and halfrauds in the same shopping retail park so i can choose whoevers got the best and then stick 300ml into the tank. Shall report back with my findings.
I know which oil to get having read the thread.

been running mine for about 2 weeks using wilkinsons 2 stroke and it is abit quieter and hopefully coupled with a service should be as good as it can be.

I always used Miller's deisel power plus in my 200 and 300 Discos and was very pleased with the results. Bit more grunt.

I used to buy Shell cooking deisel then they brought in the low sulpher stuff.
After they brought it in my local garage still had the cooking stuff on a seperate HGV pump for a while.

I think I'll try 2 stroke in my 06 TD4.

Some people are saying 300ml per tank some 250ml, as I don't always fill fuel tanks up, by my calculations that's approx 5ml per litre.

Singvogel said:

Walk into Halford, preferably wearing some old dirty overalls and with a bit of the old EGR gunge under the finger-nails.

You need a photo ID to show them and a few receipts from a Landy Dealer or whatever, and you tell them you are a small self employed mechanic just starting up.

I had only 3 receipts - 2 from the local LR agent and the one from the BMW dealer where I bought my cyclone pcv filter.

Works a treat - or so I'm told Ahem! - I would never think of doing such a thing.

Lubbly Jubbly.

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I went in with anglian water card, a letter head and a business card and got one for each our vans. They said what do we do, just said we work on pumps all over the country n need to get tools when we need them at a good price

chunkymunky said:

I went in with anglian water card, a letter head and a business card and got one for each our vans. They said what do we do, just said we work on pumps all over the country n need to get tools when we need them at a good price

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Good for you chunkymunky!

It's a worthwhile discount - and they still make a decent profit from us.

Hoo-ah!

Singvogel. :cool2:

Well ya gotta havent you.

Hi All,

Anymore updates on the 2 stroke oil in diesel. I have been using it for a couple of months now with no adverse affects, just wondered if anybody has come across any problems. I took my TD4 in for it's MOT at the beginning of May and watched it being tested, when it came time to test the emissions three times the tester revved up the engine to very high rev's and looked at the results on his machine so I don't know what the results were but it passed the MOT no problem.

Grayo :5bhurray:

I had the same - the machine couldn't find any results - meaning no smoke at all, I think.

The screen the tester was looking at probably had the message 'Check the smoke sensor is properly positioned / hasn't fallen out the exhaust pipe' !!!!

My tester then 'manually' put in that the car had passed.

Great stuff.

Singvogel said:

I had the same - the machine couldn't find any results - meaning no smoke at all, I think.

The screen the tester was looking at probably had the message 'Check the smoke sensor is properly positioned / hasn't fallen out the exhaust pipe' !!!!

My tester then 'manually' put in that the car had passed.

Great stuff.

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My 300TDI disco was the same,the tester even checked to see if the pipe had come out of the exhaust because the reading needs to be below 1.5 and it was 0.13!

hmmm.....what would be better...ATF or engine oil?

2 stroke i have to pay for...the others i dont

Kizzeh said:

hmmm.....what would be better...ATF or engine oil?

2 stroke i have to pay for...the others i dont

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There should be no difference at all - truckers have been using ATF for years - I did too - until I discovered that 2-stroke was cheaper.

You on the other hand - you lucky bas***** can get free oil - I cant

Seriously - as long as it's mineral based ATF and not some hi-tech synthetic stuff - it'll be fine.

I probably wouldn't add engine oil as its got lots of other additives that we don't need.

This is a very interesting thread.

I'm running a TD5 in a Defender 90 and anything that will ease the path of the mechanical parts looks like an attractive proposition on the face of it.

Thinking about it, this idea of two-stroke additive is very good in terms of lubrication of moving parts, but possibly negative in terms of the fuel system in the medium to long term. Depending on just how 'long-term' you happen to be looking, it may be necessary to weigh the longevity of the fuel system (including injectors) against the longevity of the rest of the engine. Presumably, if the engine proper wears to MOT failing proportions, then the fuel system becomes academic - so the two-stroke additive idea becomes quite attractive.

Does anyone have any links to good information on this - i.e. industry sanctioned. It's a bit of a dilemma without it.

The motor industry wont sanction it as immediately someone will say their engines are no good in their standard state without fuel additives.

Do a google search for some of these:

BMW tested fuel additives a year or so back - they found them all useless except adding 2-stroke.

Mercedes Benz record breaking long distance endurance runs were made using diesel with added 2-stroke - officially/unofficially due to poor quality fuel in Asia - I think.

German (and Austrian) Army use 2-stroke as a matter of course in all their diesel vehicles.

Loads of info on almost any diesel forum. Reduced sulphur content etc etc.

It'll take you days to read it all.

Singvogel.

Just refueled after fitting the Synergy with new MAF and in cab switch also adding 2 stroke, all local driving with no high speed or Mway. Fuel consumption before fitting the Synergy and adding 2 stroke 29.7 mpg Fuel consumption after 29.8 mpg. Synergy set on 7 and eco mode, new BMW crankcase breather and EGR bypass. Now my question is how do I convince my Wife that the £270 I spent on the Synergy was a worthwhile investment. BUGGER

another question.... would the added oil create more of a carbon build up on the egr? with having a L series there aint much gain from blanking it and i dont fancy more knuckle scuffing than absolute nessasary

Kizzeh said:

another question.... would the added oil create more of a carbon build up on the egr? with having a L series there aint much gain from blanking it and i dont fancy more knuckle scuffing than absolute nessasary

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Carbon 'gunge' on the EGR is created by the exhaust gasses, and cannot be affected by anything in the fuel delivery system.

Singvogel.

Kizzeh said:

another question.... would the added oil create more of a carbon build up on the egr? with having a L series there aint much gain from blanking it and i dont fancy more knuckle scuffing than absolute nessasary

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I wouldn't have thought that 250ml of 2 stroke to app 60 litres of diesel would have caused much of a problem. My personal opinion is that I would be better of buying premium grade diesel with additives rather than supermarket fuel without and adding 2 stroke.
Hello Singvogel, even though the 2 stroke is low ash it still passes through the non bypassed EGR after combustion.

I'm using mostly Shell V-Power and 250ml 2-stroke per full tankful.

I worked out that the 2-stroke costs me .25p per mile so not a lot in the greater scheme of things.

S.

Hi Nick - just seen your edit - I had overlooked that.

Another reason to by-pass, or at the very least de-activate, the EGR then.

nickcc said:

Just refueled after fitting the Synergy with new MAF and in cab switch also adding 2 stroke, all local driving with no high speed or Mway. Fuel consumption before fitting the Synergy and adding 2 stroke 29.7 mpg Fuel consumption after 29.8 mpg. Synergy set on 7 and eco mode, new BMW crankcase breather and EGR bypass. Now my question is how do I convince my Wife that the £270 I spent on the Synergy was a worthwhile investment. BUGGER

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Get a big grin on your face, each time she drives along. When she asks what's so amusing tell her it's the added driving pleasure after having the synergy installed. Tell her also that the engine loves the extra power and will last much longer now.

willo said:

Get a big grin on your face, each time she drives along. When she asks what's so amusing tell her it's the added driving pleasure after having the synergy installed. Tell her also that the engine loves the extra power and will last much longer now.

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Just wish she would believe me