What is your true cost of R/R ownership

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tomcat59alan

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Morning, Just been having a clear out in my office and came across my P38 file. Totted up what I have spent on the old girl, (not the missus), excluding service items my total is £2410.30. Considering that I have owned the vehicle since 7/2005 I don't think that is a lot of money. The BECM and front locks accounted for nearly £1000 of that. Labour was £200 so the remaining £1210.30 was for parts. Good job I can do my own repairs otherwise God knows what the total would be. Anyone else dare to tell us their cost of ownership?:)
 
Posted this last year.....

So....

A year after purchasing the L322 I thought I would summerise my first year of L322 ownership so you guys can either laugh or cry with me!
Purchased the 2003 4.4 L322 Vogue in Adriatic Blue (Non-descript Blue according to some) exactly a year ago with a years MOT and a months Tax.

After a lengthy test drive and a good check over for all things that can and do go wrong, I made the purchase for just £7.25k.

Picked it up a couple of days later after than bank released the funds and made my first journey in my new L322 - which was to the petrol station!
The first day was one of joy and woe, after a few hours bombing around doing a few errands, I took the girlfriend out for her first taste of the L322 - Bells and whistles, ABS/HDC/EAS fault....the world falls out of my backside, I pull over and switch off....restart and it has gone, panic over so I turn round to head home, it faults again....OK now I am really gutted, truly gutted almost to the point of tears....have I just bought a vehicle with a problem?

Research took me down a dark path of Steering Angle Sensors, ABS Sensors, Yaw Sensors, a myriad of EAS faults. Was I looking at a potentially expensive bill??

Went back out to the car, started her up, no faults, turned the steering wheel and the fault appeared, so looks like it could be the Steering Angle Sensor then, after my research I knew this involved a lot of work to remove the steering coloumn and the replacement SAS unit would need to be coded to the vehicles ABS and DSC systems which would be a Dealer job to plug into the T4....I sat there in the car for a few minutes contemplating fate and the potential bill I was facing on my very first day of ownership, maybe I should have stuck with the DSE, I mean it only had a handful of issues, no major ones, just Blend motors and a few niggles!

The L322 had been a total impulse purchase, a real punt in the dark....I had driven a few previously in my search for another Range Rover before my DSE, but the DSE was at the time the right car at the right price as the L322 was a tad out of my range at that time! Had I made a huge mistake when facing a repair bill the likes of what I was looking at for the Steering Angle Sensor??

Further research was needed, and I stumbled across a post on the 'net about ABS sensor wiring getting chaffed through when the steering is on full lock due to the amount of 'loose' wiring on the sensor and bad routing. It was worth a punt to see if that was the issue!

Outside once again, I jacked up the car and Took the front wheels off. A quick poke about revealed exactly what I had hoped for - one of the ABS sensor wires had indeed been worn to the point of almost complete breakage, so when you turned the wheel it was enough to cause a disconnection and throw the fault. A temporary repair was made and a new sensor was purchased from LR the very next day....I prayed to those who would listen that day I can tell you!

I won't hark on about all the other repairs I have done as they have all been documented on here, but here is a brief summary of my first year with the L322:

Repairs/Maintenance:
(all prices are approximate as I don't have the invoices to hand)
2 Front ABS Sensors - £47 (LR Dealer)
EAS Recalibration - £75 (LR Delaer)
Full Set of Brake Pads and Sensors - £120 (Delphi CAFCO)
Wheel Nut Removal - close to £200 (long story)
4 New Wheel Nuts - £28 (LR Dealer)
Thermostat - £68 (GSF Car Parts Genuine Behr Part))
Radiator - £170 (Island 4x4 Genuine Behr/Hella part)
Fuel Pump - £160 (GSF Car Parts - X5 Fuel Pump)
Water Pump - £85 (CAFCO)
Gearbox Oil and Filter change - £140 (Oil from VW, filter/gasket/O Ring LR Dealer)
ABS Short Harness Repair - £30 (LR Dealer)
ABS ECU Replacement - £257 (Ebay brand New LR Part in Box)
ABS ECU Recoding at Local Indy - £50 (wanted to charge me £30, but gave him extra as he was a decent bloke)
4 New Tyres - £476 (Iota Accelera Cheap as Chips)
Fluids - £100 (Coolant, Oil etc)

Tooling (main):
RSW All Comms - £186
3 Tonne Trolley Jack - £120
12 Tonne Bottle Jack - £30
Ramps - £45
Torx Set - £26

Odds:
Load Space Cover - £50 Ebay
Wraparound Bull Bar - £41 Ebay

Day to Day Fueling Costs:
Number of Fill Ups - 69
Average MPG - 15.44
Best MPG - 17.31
Worst MPG - 12.64
Avg Miles Per Tank - 220.4
Total Miles Covered - 15207.3
Most Miles from a Tank Full - 260.1
Least Miles from a Tank Full - 128.2
Avg Fill Amount - 64.9 litres
Total Fuel Used - 4478.16 Litres
Largest Fill - 75.02 Litres
Avg Cost - £48.64 per fill
Total Fuel Spend - £3356.25
Max Single Fill Cost - £59.56

So for the year on:
Maintenance/Repairs - £2006.00
Tools (Main) - £407
Odds and Sods - £91
Fuel - £3356.25
Grand Total for the Year - £5860.25 (£488.36 per month incl. Fuel) (Not incl. Insurance - £480/year or Tax £270/year)

Not a million miles from what I was working it out to cost when I bought it, but I hope the above figures will give those some insight into potential running costs for an L322 over a year on LPG with only what could be minor niggles....

Remember I spanner the majority of my repairs and it has only been to LR/Indy for the ABS Recode and also the first EAS Recalibration before I got the All Comms!

If you can't spanner your own repairs, consider LR Hourly Rate at £110/hr or an Indy at around £60/hr and the bills could easily be double or triple my yearly maintenance costs.....
 
Never included tyres as I think of them as consumables. Just parts such as tensioners, a/c compressor, air bags, fuse box etc etc :)
If you exclude the exhaust & tyres as consumables, it comes down to airbags, dryer, seal kit for the EAS, aircon condensor, oil cooler & pipes, window regulator, can't think of anything else, so what's that £500?
Not bad in 5 years:D
 
I posted this on Saints thread last year.

Ant's write up prompted me to assess my first year costs for my P38. Bought in March last year with 104,000 miles on the clock (new engine fitted @ 60k miles). Now has 128,500 so my mileage has been heavy for the first 14 months.

Maintenance :

First Service (106,052 miles)- indie £165.00
New rad, coolant flush & replace, brake pipes & front prop UJ - £325.00
Second service (113,520 miles) - including new disks / pads front & rear £289.72
Head gasket replacement (116,512 miles) - head skim, new leads & plugs - £620.00
Head gasket replacement 2 & LPG service (119,134 miles) - £514.18
Oil, filter change (120,759) - approx £40.00
Transmission fluid change (121,846) - £123.39
New serp belt fitted (approx 122,000) - £30 (plus spare belt - Dayco)
Alternator bearings replaced - £30
Oil, filter change & change water pump (126,862) - approx £80.00
New O/S rear hub - £280.00
New rear diff (approx 128,000 miles) - £222.50

Total £2720

I had budgeted around £2k for first year maintenance but HG's took it over somewhat.

Bits :

Dog guard - £40
New side steps - £195
Janspeed SS exhaust system - £475
New front tyres - £165
New set of bass speakers for doors & rear sub £52.00


I haven't had a chance to go through my exact fuel usage but a quick scan of my accounts show approx £4500 since March last year.

So tot-up for first year £8147 without road tax & insurance.

It seems high for just over a years running but to be fair alot of the work has been done by my mechanic & much of it has been preventative maintenance rather than waiting for something to completely fail. As i get to know the Rangie better & build up my confidence i plan to tackle more jobs myself & hope the next year will be less expensive. Jobs planned for the year ahead will be :

New airbags
New shocks
..........& hopefully not a new engine.

A few bits done since like new condenser & re-gas / transmission fluid change but generally mine has behaved it'self the last year thankfully. Considering the mileage i do though i don't grumble about it.
 
Get a sensible car and put the cash you save to one side for your daughter:)
Running an L322 and a P38 both on LPG is costing us no more in fuel than a mid sized family snore-mobile....

Yes Range Rovers have potential high repair costs, but keep up maintenance and they can be as reliable as the next car!

(Saying that, did notice a pool of coolant under the L322 this morning on the way to work!)
 
ha , i was going to throw my lot in this thread.i.e. how much ive spent from day it was delivered till today .. but sat here contemplating it and looking through my file on said vechile ,all i can say is the big knife to slash me wrists is a bit blunt so il'l leave it to another time cos:eek: its goin in today for full service on petrol /gas and some other remedial work, so the total goes up nup .. you would probably be shocked if i itemised it all with cost from day one ,,,four and half years later !!!!!!!!!! regards mozz ,,,,,,, 2000 4.6 v8 thor with multipoint lpg ,,,,the sorry thing is i absolutely love the bastard !!!!!!!!!
 
ha , i was going to throw my lot in this thread.i.e. how much ive spent from day it was delivered till today .. but sat here contemplating it and looking through my file on said vechile ,all i can say is the big knife to slash me wrists is a bit blunt so il'l leave it to another time cos:eek: its goin in today for full service on petrol /gas and some other remedial work, so the total goes up nup .. you would probably be shocked if i itemised it all with cost from day one ,,,four and half years later !!!!!!!!!! regards mozz ,,,,,,, 2000 4.6 v8 thor with multipoint lpg ,,,,the sorry thing is i absolutely love the bastard !!!!!!!!!

Get your missus to hide the knife when you get it back from the garage Mozz. Away for a month on Saturday, keep well and I will speak when I get back. Regards Alan:D
 
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