2006 L322 3.0TD6 diesel lift pump.

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Hi all, I have just suffered a failure of my in tank lift pump. I have removed the complete pump, level sender unit from the tank and removed the actual pump part. It's a Siemens VDO unit with the following part number 005 002 17405 26407 lightly stamped into its casing. Does anyone know where this pump can be sourced from, as I don't want to buy the whole shooting match at several hundred quid, if can possibly avoid it?
 
Sorry but not like that one, it is similar to the one in your fantastic how to on the V8 petrol lift pump however. I can certainly take photos, just need to figure out how to add them to a post. Give me 30 mins or so, and I'll try to figure that out:))
 
Island 4x4 ro the whole unit for the Diesel at £200 plus VAT

Fuel Pump (In Tank) 3.0 Diesel 02-04 WFX000160 Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order.

Considering I paid £160 just for the little pump in the bottom, and the petrol version iss £333+VAT the diesel prices is pretty good...

Lets take a goosey at the photos....dead simple to upload, go to the Post Reply button, click go advanced and scroll down to Manage Attachments...and upload your images.
 
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Thanks for the pointer to the complete unit, I will order one. Would still like to find the source of the actual pump though, that way I would have a spare complete unit sitting in case anyone needed one.
 
Thanks, have placed an order with LR Direct for the complete unit, £288.32 delivered. I suspect the Bosch pump you sourced would work, after all this is just a lift pump and as long as it delivers enough fuel to the secondary in line pump, then all should work. As the V8 is more thirsty than the diesel it would be a reasonable assumption the it will supply enough fuel for the diesel! That would be a saving of £120 , which I would rather have in my pocket...LOL.
 
Thanks, have placed an order with LR Direct for the complete unit, £288.32 delivered. I suspect the Bosch pump you sourced would work, after all this is just a lift pump and as long as it delivers enough fuel to the secondary in line pump, then all should work. As the V8 is more thirsty than the diesel it would be a reasonable assumption the it will supply enough fuel for the diesel! That would be a saving of £120 , which I would rather have in my pocket...LOL.
Very true, and I would be keen to see if it is indeed the same pump...but I wrestle with my conscience in saying yes get the pump I used for my V8 and give it a go.....as the consequences could be nasty....

I would much rather you be alive or in one piece than have £120 extra in your pocket....

but they do look the same....
 
Yeah I know what you mean, the risk is an over pressure occurring and causing a leak. However as this is a diesel, there is very little risk of a fire as the ignition source would have to be very hot indeed. As far as damaging the engine & or the fuel supply system, again the risk seems small. The diesel is subjected to 10s of thousands of PSI at the injectors and the 5 bar max produced by the lift pump is insignificant. That leaves the physical package size of the pump, as the container looks identical, it's hard not to think the pump will fit straight in, they are both 43mm in diameter, so that's not a problem. The last thing is the difference between diesel and petrol itself, this is a harder one to figure, diesel is more oily and the viscosity appears different, so maybe meaning the appropriate pumps are built to different tolerances. I can't find enough info to confirm or deny this, leaving me with a niggle of doubt. I found the Bosch pump for £97 and am just trying to decide whether to gamble on it or not. It's a lot of dosh to lose if the gamble fails.

It's funny the lift pump for petrol models is freely available, yet there is absolutely nothing to be found about diesel versions. Why does nobody stock them or even list any technical data? Sorry that's a rhetorical question!
 
Yeah I know what you mean, the risk is an over pressure occurring and causing a leak. However as this is a diesel, there is very little risk of a fire as the ignition source would have to be very hot indeed. As far as damaging the engine & or the fuel supply system, again the risk seems small. The diesel is subjected to 10s of thousands of PSI at the injectors and the 5 bar max produced by the lift pump is insignificant. That leaves the physical package size of the pump, as the container looks identical, it's hard not to think the pump will fit straight in, they are both 43mm in diameter, so that's not a problem. The last thing is the difference between diesel and petrol itself, this is a harder one to figure, diesel is more oily and the viscosity appears different, so maybe meaning the appropriate pumps are built to different tolerances. I can't find enough info to confirm or deny this, leaving me with a niggle of doubt. I found the Bosch pump for £97 and am just trying to decide whether to gamble on it or not. It's a lot of dosh to lose if the gamble fails.

It's funny the lift pump for petrol models is freely available, yet there is absolutely nothing to be found about diesel versions. Why does nobody stock them or even list any technical data? Sorry that's a rhetorical question!
As you say the risk (other than financial) is small.

I too have had the thoughts of fluid visocsity....could the petrol version struggle to much and either fail or worse cause a fire due to it over heating against the flow resistance...who knows....

If you can find a S/H one, it would be an idea to try it in a bucket of Diesel and a hose to cycle the Diesel through the pump and back to the bucket and see if there are any adverse effects....

I am sure the physical size is the same, just not sure on the pump internally!
 
I have eventually tracked this down NEW diesel in tank FUEL electric pump for bmw | eBay

Looks identical to the original, is suitable for 3.0D BMW engines, so think this solves the petrol/diesel compatability worry. I am going to order one now and will update on whether this does the trick or not in due course.

I am very gratefull Saint.V8, for you thoughts and suggestions and will use your excellent guide to help me successfully reinstate the completed unit back into the fuel tank, you are a genuine star sir.
 
I have eventually tracked this down NEW diesel in tank FUEL electric pump for bmw | eBay

Looks identical to the original, is suitable for 3.0D BMW engines, so think this solves the petrol/diesel compatability worry. I am going to order one now and will update on whether this does the trick or not in due course.

I am very gratefull Saint.V8, for you thoughts and suggestions and will use your excellent guide to help me successfully reinstate the completed unit back into the fuel tank, you are a genuine star sir.
Great find...!!!

Please do let us all know how you get on, and I have my fingers crossed for you.

Many thanks for your kind words, just hope it helps!!
 
I have received the replacement pump and it is identical, apart from a small alignment bulge. This does not affect the fitment of the pump in the slightest.ImageUploadedByTapatalk HD1358267653.221457.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk HD1358267625.436723.jpg

I have installed the pump and my Range Rover is back to rude good health.
 

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Not that long, although I took my time and worked through it methodically. All in all about an hour and half to get her running again and then another half hour to tidy up & reinstate the trim etc.

Hardest part was connecting the pipes to the other side of the tank, in the end installed the RHS pump assembly and then made the connection through the LHS hatch, it went together 1st time when I tried it that way although took a good firm shove to get it to click home!

My best tip?
Once the RHS is installed and its retaining ring screwed home tight, the connecting pipes from the LHS just naturally line up and are way easier to get started on their guides, worked out much easier than trying to control both sides at once! As i said above, does need a good firm shove, once entered onto its guides, to finally click home though.
 
Not that long, although I took my time and worked through it methodically. All in all about an hour and half to get her running again and then another half hour to tidy up & reinstate the trim etc.

Hardest part was connecting the pipes to the other side of the tank, in the end installed the RHS pump assembly and then made the connection through the LHS hatch, it went together 1st time when I tried it that way although took a good firm shove to get it to click home!

My best tip?
Once the RHS is installed and its retaining ring screwed home tight, the connecting pipes from the LHS just naturally line up and are way easier to get started on their guides, worked out much easier than trying to control both sides at once! As i said above, does need a good firm shove, once entered onto its guides, to finally click home though.
Yep, that was the bit that took the time for me too....I ended up lying face down, squeezed up against the seats, one arm wedged in the LHS and the other up to the elbow in the RHS....wht fun that was !!!!

Glad it has worked, and a great tip and find for the Forum too....:D:cool::)
 
Just a quick update to confirm the replacement pump is working just fine,. The original one must have been failing over time, as it is a lot quieter in the cabin now. Never noticed the pump noise increasing, so it must have been happening gradually.
 
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