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Hi, i have a winch bumper with a gap 24" wide and about 7" deep (tho not sure how deep it will be when on defender. Any suggestions on what winches will fit and what are the best ones to get? Thanks in advance! :D
 
Cricky there is a can of worms.

Depends on useage. Normal recovery, then any of the lowline winchs will be ok. Depends on depth of pocket as well. Anything from a T-Max to a Goodwinch Goldfish.

You have to think about powering the winch. With electric you may just get away with using the battery you have if it is just for odd recovery work, but you should consider split charge or even a dedicated alternator.

That assumes you want an electric on. There is also hydralic to consider. :)
 
any of the lowline elecy winches. You cant fit an 8274 though.

go for one 8000lbs - 9.5k unless you have a fully loaded 110/130 and plan on getting mega stuck.

G
 
24v winch would be the better option if you need more 'pull' than a 12v winch can offer without resorting to double line pulls.

You will need a 24v winch (obviously), twin batteries in series to supply the 24v to the winch and an additional alternator to supply charge to the batteries :) All this can run along side you normal 12v circuits.
 
andyb66 said:
24v winch would be the better option if you need more 'pull' than a 12v winch can offer without resorting to double line pulls.

You will need a 24v winch (obviously), twin batteries in series to supply the 24v to the winch and an additional alternator to supply charge to the batteries :) All this can run along side you normal 12v circuits.
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would be better fitting a prop or hydraulic pto winch instead of doing that. Seeing as the winch will be bolted to the chassis it will also earth the 12v system at 24v.:eek::eek::eek:
 
ratty said:
would be better fitting a prop or hydraulic pto winch instead of doing that. Seeing as the winch will be bolted to the chassis it will also earth the 12v system at 24v.:eek::eek::eek:
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12 and 24 volt system can share a common ground with no ill effects

but the answer is still - gerra tirfor :)
 
ratty said:
would be better fitting a prop or hydraulic pto winch instead of doing that. Seeing as the winch will be bolted to the chassis it will also earth the 12v system at 24v.:eek::eek::eek:
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No sir, the winch alternator and batteries can all share the same earth. The live side and charge wire from alt to batteries have to be isolated.

It works. Many are doing it. From day-to-day to weekend challenge competitors.....altho some of them have now moved onto 36v and twin motors.

Hydraulic is an alternative as I mentioned in my first post, but it does depend on usage. Straight out of the box most hydraulic are slow because they are run off the PAS system and the pump just doesn't give enough flow. There are other things to consider, but this is going to get into ground that I am sure if covered else where on 'tinternet. :)
 
andyb66 said:
No sir, the winch alternator and batteries can all share the same earth. The live side and charge wire from alt to batteries have to be isolated.

It works. Many are doing it. From day-to-day to weekend challenge competitors.....altho some of them have now moved onto 36v and twin motors.

Hydraulic is an alternative as I mentioned in my first post, but it does depend on usage. Straight out of the box most hydraulic are slow because they are run off the PAS system and the pump just doesn't give enough flow. There are other things to consider, but this is going to get into ground that I am sure if covered else where on 'tinternet. :)
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What I mean is that if the +ve wire shorts to earth it will feed the 12v system with 24v. When this happens there is plenty big fire. One of our trucks went up a couple of years ago.:eek:

Hydraulic winches correctly coupled to the right pump are MUCH faster than leccy winches. My hydraulic winch on my truck can winch fast enough to bump start a car. You also don't have to woory about burning out the motor on em. Using an electric over pneutmatic over hydraulic system means that you can also use a wireless remote in the same way that you can with an electric winch.

I haven't got a prop for my H14 that I've fitted to my 110. As soon as I do I will be able to evaluate how prop driven compares to hydraulic.
 
goonarmy said:
is winch speed important if ya not competeing?
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It all depends on what you want your winch for. As a basic recovery tool any speed is better than stuck. When stuck in mud, slow and steady is great. As 24v and 36v systems came into the thread for the purposes of speed I thought that it was worth mentioning that a faster constant line pull of a hydraulic winch was worth mentioning. The only time I really use my winch at full tilt is if I have a lot of ground to cover (500 yds or so) or if I am positioned in a bad location (blind bend, live motorway lane etc).
 
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