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Okay, I promised to make the next posting Land Rover related - so here
it is ...

Can anyone tell me which gearbox was fitted to late Series 2a's?
Neither the owners handbook nor the workshop manual say which gearbox
it is and I'm looking for a replacement.

If a S2a box can't be found at a reasonable price, what alternatives
are there that don't require major surgery? Would a box out of a Stage
1 V8 fit, for example?

Any help gratefully received, as always :)

Regards
Steve G
 
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:27:47 GMT, SteveG <[email protected]> wrote:

>Okay, I promised to make the next posting Land Rover related - so here
>it is ...
>
>Can anyone tell me which gearbox was fitted to late Series 2a's?
>Neither the owners handbook nor the workshop manual say which gearbox
>it is and I'm looking for a replacement.

The easy choice is between all-synchro and part-synchro. 2a should
have part-synchro with the cluch slave cylinder on the right hand side
(from drivers seat) The Later III box is all-synchro and has the
clutch slave on the left hand side

>
>If a S2a box can't be found at a reasonable price, what alternatives
>are there that don't require major surgery? Would a box out of a Stage
>1 V8 fit, for example?
>

No, the Stage1 v8 is a permanat four-wheel drive and is not really
compatible with the series running gear, and certainly will not fit a
2.25. Your best bet is to look for either 2a or 3 box, as the 3 box
can be made to fit onto a earlier 2a engine.

Alex
 
SteveG wrote:

> Okay, I promised to make the next posting Land Rover related - so here
> it is ...
>
> Can anyone tell me which gearbox was fitted to late Series 2a's?
> Neither the owners handbook nor the workshop manual say which gearbox
> it is and I'm looking for a replacement.
It should be a series 2 gearbox - no synchro on 1st and 2nd. They're
not bad to strip and rebuild - what's wrong with yours?

>
> If a S2a box can't be found at a reasonable price, what alternatives
> are there that don't require major surgery? Would a box out of a Stage
> 1 V8 fit, for example?
A series 3 gearbox (full synchro) will fit with minimal hassle. A stage
1 'box will not fit (without serious modifications) and you'd probably
want to change the diffs too.

>
> Any help gratefully received, as always :)
>
> Regards
> Steve G


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EMB
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:07:25 +1200, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:

>SteveG wrote:
>
>> Okay, I promised to make the next posting Land Rover related - so here
>> it is ...
>>
>> Can anyone tell me which gearbox was fitted to late Series 2a's?
>> Neither the owners handbook nor the workshop manual say which gearbox
>> it is and I'm looking for a replacement.
>It should be a series 2 gearbox - no synchro on 1st and 2nd. They're
>not bad to strip and rebuild - what's wrong with yours?

There are also plenty of places that will rebuild them for you if
youre not inclined to do it yourself.

>>
>> If a S2a box can't be found at a reasonable price, what alternatives
>> are there that don't require major surgery? Would a box out of a Stage
>> 1 V8 fit, for example?
>A series 3 gearbox (full synchro) will fit with minimal hassle.
S3 boxes are easy to get hold of and fairly cheap.

It is about 5 minutes work with an angle grinder to make a S3 box fit
in a 2A. The only external difference is the location of the clutch,
which on the S3 box is down on the opposite side of the box than the
2A, and hits the 2A chassis.
You need to remove the small lip on the x-member under the gearbox
(which isnt there on the S3 chassis)
You might have to extend your clutch pipe too.


 
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:07:25 +1200, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:

>SteveG wrote:
>
>> Okay, I promised to make the next posting Land Rover related - so here
>> it is ...
>>
>> Can anyone tell me which gearbox was fitted to late Series 2a's?
>> Neither the owners handbook nor the workshop manual say which gearbox
>> it is and I'm looking for a replacement.
>It should be a series 2 gearbox - no synchro on 1st and 2nd. They're
>not bad to strip and rebuild - what's wrong with yours?

SG: Synchro has completely gone on mine. I can change without too much
crunching and grinding by double declutching both up and down the box
but that's a PITA :)

>
>>
>> If a S2a box can't be found at a reasonable price, what alternatives
>> are there that don't require major surgery? Would a box out of a Stage
>> 1 V8 fit, for example?
>A series 3 gearbox (full synchro) will fit with minimal hassle. A stage
>1 'box will not fit (without serious modifications) and you'd probably
>want to change the diffs too.

SG: Glad I didn't buy the Stage1 box then. Guess I'll look for a S3
box instead.

Advice much appreciated.

Regards
Steve G
 
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:03:21 +0100, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:07:25 +1200, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>SteveG wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, I promised to make the next posting Land Rover related - so here
>>> it is ...
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me which gearbox was fitted to late Series 2a's?
>>> Neither the owners handbook nor the workshop manual say which gearbox
>>> it is and I'm looking for a replacement.
>>It should be a series 2 gearbox - no synchro on 1st and 2nd. They're
>>not bad to strip and rebuild - what's wrong with yours?
>
>There are also plenty of places that will rebuild them for you if
>youre not inclined to do it yourself.

SG: I'm a bit handy with the spanners, etc., and have rebuilt plenty
of boxes in my time (30 years in the forces - regular and reserve).

>
>>>
>>> If a S2a box can't be found at a reasonable price, what alternatives
>>> are there that don't require major surgery? Would a box out of a Stage
>>> 1 V8 fit, for example?
>>A series 3 gearbox (full synchro) will fit with minimal hassle.
>S3 boxes are easy to get hold of and fairly cheap.
>
>It is about 5 minutes work with an angle grinder to make a S3 box fit
>in a 2A. The only external difference is the location of the clutch,
>which on the S3 box is down on the opposite side of the box than the
>2A, and hits the 2A chassis.
>You need to remove the small lip on the x-member under the gearbox
>(which isnt there on the S3 chassis)
>You might have to extend your clutch pipe too.

SG: That sounds like the best choice. S3 box here we come ...

Regards
Steve G
>

 
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:34:02 GMT, Alex <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:27:47 GMT, SteveG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Okay, I promised to make the next posting Land Rover related - so here
>>it is ...
>>
>>Can anyone tell me which gearbox was fitted to late Series 2a's?
>>Neither the owners handbook nor the workshop manual say which gearbox
>>it is and I'm looking for a replacement.
>
>The easy choice is between all-synchro and part-synchro. 2a should
>have part-synchro with the cluch slave cylinder on the right hand side
>(from drivers seat) The Later III box is all-synchro and has the
>clutch slave on the left hand side
>
>>
>>If a S2a box can't be found at a reasonable price, what alternatives
>>are there that don't require major surgery? Would a box out of a Stage
>>1 V8 fit, for example?
>>
>
>No, the Stage1 v8 is a permanat four-wheel drive and is not really
>compatible with the series running gear, and certainly will not fit a
>2.25. Your best bet is to look for either 2a or 3 box, as the 3 box
>can be made to fit onto a earlier 2a engine.
>
>Alex

Cheers Alex. The Stage 1 box can stay where it is and I'll look out
for a S3 one instead. eBay here I come :)

Regards
Steve G
 
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:07:25 +1200, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:

>SteveG wrote:
>
>> Okay, I promised to make the next posting Land Rover related - so here
>> it is ...
>>
>> Can anyone tell me which gearbox was fitted to late Series 2a's?
>> Neither the owners handbook nor the workshop manual say which gearbox
>> it is and I'm looking for a replacement.
>It should be a series 2 gearbox - no synchro on 1st and 2nd. They're
>not bad to strip and rebuild - what's wrong with yours?

There are also plenty of places that will rebuild them for you if
youre not inclined to do it yourself.

>>
>> If a S2a box can't be found at a reasonable price, what alternatives
>> are there that don't require major surgery? Would a box out of a Stage
>> 1 V8 fit, for example?
>A series 3 gearbox (full synchro) will fit with minimal hassle.
S3 boxes are easy to get hold of and fairly cheap.

It is about 5 minutes work with an angle grinder to make a S3 box fit
in a 2A. The only external difference is the location of the clutch,
which on the S3 box is down on the opposite side of the box than the
2A, and hits the 2A chassis.
You need to remove the small lip on the x-member under the gearbox
(which isnt there on the S3 chassis)
You might have to extend your clutch pipe too.


 
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