What Silly Legislation Next?

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>>>> >
>>>> >>I am firmly of the opinion that breaking wind on public transport is a
>>>> >>henoius crime that should be punished by death by stoning.
>>>> >
>>>> >surely they should use a gas chamber as the method of execution...
>>>>
>>>> lock the offender in a sealed cell with a supply of baked beans.
>>>> --
>>>
>>>Isn't just being on public transport punishment enough ! ;)
>>
>>It is if you're on my bus.....
>
>Isn't farting compulsory on your bus - acting as an air freshner?
>
>(to mask the pungent stench of EP90, before you get all floral with
>me...) :)
>

No, to mask the diesel exhaust fumes, don't get a lot of EP90 in
buses.

Alex
 

> Don't misunderstand me, the 'issues' were not formally raised by the
> Muslim community or anyone claiming to represent them. In the latter
> case of the Granny and the piggy banks, it was actually the Council
> who vastly over-reacted, much to the embarrassment of the local Muslim
> community.

Isn't that the problem though? Most of the time these stories
we heard about are cause by 'white' people who --think-- that
Muslins etc. etc. will be offended, when in fact they are nothing
of the sort, and don't really care. Unfortunately it is often
reported in such a way that we are lead to believe that these
minorities are responsible for 'granny and the piggy banks' or
similar anecdotes. Which just causes more problems.

Not that I particularly care what state this country is getting
into, my wife and I have had enough and are taking our family
and leaving at the start of 2007. I'm sure we are far from alone
in doing the same.

Matt.

 
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:39:17 +0100, Matthew Maddock
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Isn't that the problem though? Most of the time these stories
>we heard about are cause by 'white' people who --think-- that
>Muslins etc. etc. will be offended, when in fact they are nothing
>of the sort, and don't really care. Unfortunately it is often
>reported in such a way that we are lead to believe that these
>minorities are responsible for 'granny and the piggy banks' or
>similar anecdotes. Which just causes more problems.

Yeah, it's the reverse side of the politically correct coin - and
actually more damaging.

>Not that I particularly care what state this country is getting
>into, my wife and I have had enough and are taking our family
>and leaving at the start of 2007. I'm sure we are far from alone
>in doing the same.

Where to, out of interest? I'd be away in a flash if it weren't for
Charlotte wanting to stay - mind, I lived in Amsterdam for some time
and contrary to what people may believe, it's certainly not a lot
better there (probably worse if you take the hoards of drunk/stoned
visitors into account). High on my list is New Zealand, Canada or
perhaps somewhere in Africa.


--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
 
Mother" <"@ {mother} @ wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:39:17 +0100, Matthew Maddock
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Isn't that the problem though? Most of the time these stories
>> we heard about are cause by 'white' people who --think-- that
>> Muslins etc. etc. will be offended, when in fact they are nothing
>> of the sort, and don't really care. Unfortunately it is often
>> reported in such a way that we are lead to believe that these
>> minorities are responsible for 'granny and the piggy banks' or
>> similar anecdotes. Which just causes more problems.
>
> Hi Group, This is so true, even so called experts often don't have a clue.
> i was in charge of a shift of 21 men who were either different religions
> or different countries. The experts arrived and were horrified that I had
> sent out one Moslem, one Sikh and one Hindu out on a breakdown together
> and were even more upset when I said it's all right they all drink
> together.
Alan


 
In message <[email protected]>, John Stokes
<[email protected]> writes
>Personally I would like to see a ban on boring conversations in public
>places. Two visitors at the country park where I work spent all lunchtime
>in our tearooms discussing whether a cake was a cherry bakewell.
There was the famous (notorious) case which went on for I believe a
couple of years to argue whether a Jaffa Cake was in fact a cake or a
biscuit - VAT is chargeable on cakes but not biscuits.
The deciding factor to differentiate was that a biscuit goes soft when
stale, but a cake goes hard.

Apparently so the story goes, the defence had a huge Jaffa Cake made and
brought into the court for the duration of the hearing and as it went
soft over time it was definitely a biscuit not a cake, so no VAT.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
>> Not that I particularly care what state this country is getting
>> into, my wife and I have had enough and are taking our family
>> and leaving at the start of 2007. I'm sure we are far from alone
>> in doing the same.
>
> Where to, out of interest? I'd be away in a flash if it weren't for
> Charlotte wanting to stay - mind, I lived in Amsterdam for some time
> and contrary to what people may believe, it's certainly not a lot
> better there (probably worse if you take the hoards of drunk/stoned
> visitors into account). High on my list is New Zealand, Canada or
> perhaps somewhere in Africa.

We're actually moving to France - a pretty common place to go I know!
but I have had a house there for years and have spent a long time in
France over the past 15 years or so (all sparked by having a French
GF for many years!) I don't think that France is perfect, but there is
still a feeling of common sense prevailing there, and that 'society'
actually means something that is to be respected. It has taken me about
two years to persuade Helen to go, but she has finally given in! It does
always does seem to be the women who are more attached to staying in
familiar surroundings - I've spoken to quite a few guys who say they
would move abroad, but their wife/partner doesn't want to go.

NZ is supposed to be great, my sister is married to a Kiwi and she lived
there for a couple of years, had a fantastic job in a bank there that
she couldn't possibly hope to get here without a PhD - why they don't
move back I have no idea.

Matt

 
Matthew Maddock wrote:
>>> Not that I particularly care what state this country is getting
>>> into, my wife and I have had enough and are taking our family
>>> and leaving at the start of 2007. I'm sure we are far from alone
>>> in doing the same.
>>
>>
>> Where to, out of interest? I'd be away in a flash if it weren't for
>> Charlotte wanting to stay - mind, I lived in Amsterdam for some time
>> and contrary to what people may believe, it's certainly not a lot
>> better there (probably worse if you take the hoards of drunk/stoned
>> visitors into account). High on my list is New Zealand, Canada or
>> perhaps somewhere in Africa.
>
>
> We're actually moving to France - a pretty common place to go I know!
> but I have had a house there for years and have spent a long time in
> France over the past 15 years or so (all sparked by having a French
> GF for many years!) I don't think that France is perfect, but there is
> still a feeling of common sense prevailing there, and that 'society'
> actually means something that is to be respected. It has taken me about
> two years to persuade Helen to go, but she has finally given in! It does
> always does seem to be the women who are more attached to staying in
> familiar surroundings - I've spoken to quite a few guys who say they
> would move abroad, but their wife/partner doesn't want to go.
>
> NZ is supposed to be great, my sister is married to a Kiwi and she lived
> there for a couple of years, had a fantastic job in a bank there that
> she couldn't possibly hope to get here without a PhD - why they don't
> move back I have no idea.
>
> Matt
>
Hi Matt - which part of France? I moved to the Vendee (West France) a
couple of years ago, and indeed the feeling of society is greater than
in the UK - witness the recent strikes over unfavourable contracts for
young people. The equivalent of the MOT is easier too, except the
emissions :(

Legislation is a bugger though, with different agencies often
contradicting each other, and more often tha nnot it is who you know
that gets you through.

Regards,

Stuart
 
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:01:24 +0200, Srtgray <[email protected]>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>Matthew Maddock wrote:
>>>> Not that I particularly care what state this country is getting
>>>> into, my wife and I have had enough and are taking our family
>>>> and leaving at the start of 2007. I'm sure we are far from alone
>>>> in doing the same.
>>>
>>>
>>> Where to, out of interest? I'd be away in a flash if it weren't for
>>> Charlotte wanting to stay - mind, I lived in Amsterdam for some time
>>> and contrary to what people may believe, it's certainly not a lot
>>> better there (probably worse if you take the hoards of drunk/stoned
>>> visitors into account). High on my list is New Zealand, Canada or
>>> perhaps somewhere in Africa.
>>
>>
>> We're actually moving to France - a pretty common place to go I know!
>> but I have had a house there for years and have spent a long time in
>> France over the past 15 years or so (all sparked by having a French
>> GF for many years!) I don't think that France is perfect, but there is
>> still a feeling of common sense prevailing there, and that 'society'
>> actually means something that is to be respected. It has taken me about
>> two years to persuade Helen to go, but she has finally given in! It does
>> always does seem to be the women who are more attached to staying in
>> familiar surroundings - I've spoken to quite a few guys who say they
>> would move abroad, but their wife/partner doesn't want to go.
>>
>> NZ is supposed to be great, my sister is married to a Kiwi and she lived
>> there for a couple of years, had a fantastic job in a bank there that
>> she couldn't possibly hope to get here without a PhD - why they don't
>> move back I have no idea.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>Hi Matt - which part of France? I moved to the Vendee (West France) a
>couple of years ago, and indeed the feeling of society is greater than
>in the UK - witness the recent strikes over unfavourable contracts for
>young people. The equivalent of the MOT is easier too, except the
>emissions :(
>
>Legislation is a bugger though, with different agencies often
>contradicting each other, and more often tha nnot it is who you know
>that gets you through.
>
>Regards,
>
>Stuart

aah, the Vendee, a lovely part of france, and doesn't seem to be
overpopulated with brits, unlike normandy, brittany and the pas de
calais. Have many fond memeries of the wonderfully named La Tranche
Sur Mer
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Chairman, Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body shell, being bobbed and modded.....
 
Simon Isaacs wrote:

|| aah, the Vendee, a lovely part of france, and doesn't seem to be
|| overpopulated with brits, unlike normandy, brittany and the pas de
|| calais. Have many fond memeries of the wonderfully named La Tranche
|| Sur Mer


"The Slice on the Sea"? Lovely place, spent ten days there summer before
last.

--
Rich
==============================

I don't approve of signatures, so I don't have one.


 
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:05:04 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>Simon Isaacs wrote:
>
>|| aah, the Vendee, a lovely part of france, and doesn't seem to be
>|| overpopulated with brits, unlike normandy, brittany and the pas de
>|| calais. Have many fond memeries of the wonderfully named La Tranche
>|| Sur Mer
>
>
>"The Slice on the Sea"? Lovely place, spent ten days there summer before
>last.

thats the place! Small world innit! Last time I was there it was a
february and freezing cold. The rollers coming in were more
impressive than during the summer, but as I didn't have my wetsuit and
belly board with me I couldn't try them out!
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Chairman, Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body shell, being bobbed and modded.....
 
> Hi Matt - which part of France? I moved to the Vendee (West France) a
> couple of years ago, and indeed the feeling of society is greater than
> in the UK - witness the recent strikes over unfavourable contracts for
> young people. The equivalent of the MOT is easier too, except the
> emissions :(

The house is in the Poitou-Charante region about half way between
Limogues and Potiers. The intention is to move into the existing
house and then get somewhere bigger at our leisure in the same area
as we know it around there! As I understand it, prices have softened
in France over the past year or so.

> Legislation is a bugger though, with different agencies often
> contradicting each other, and more often tha nnot it is who you know
> that gets you through.

Indeed, that is one of the problems with France. I think where
most people go wrong is that they don't look into the legal side
of what they are doing and go ahead blindly - which tends to get
the French a bit annoyed with them - just causing more problems!
They can be bloody awkward if they choose to be! :)
Like you say, I think a lot of the time it is who you know - a
friendly word (and a bottle of wine!!) with the local mayor
usually gets you around a lot of things and works wonders!

Matt.
 
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