On the sellers ipad and more on the garage's computer. The garage sent me all receipts and records of the restoration. The photo file sizes were too large for email (bar a couple). So they asked me to send a mem stick with sae which i did. Whilst this was in transit, and I got the estimate for the urgent work, I phoned the seller up, telling him what I thought. In the huff, the seller has told the garage to no longer cooperate. That's all I was saying.
What does it take to rip someone off?
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"Fully restored just interior to do". Not how it turned out but I'll sort it
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not like your curtains i hope
Funnily enough, I found 4 metres in the loft this eve. Tested it for the roof lining but its not 2 way stretch, never mind 4. I'm surprised LZs struggle so much with the utilitarian / luxury mash up. No tastenot like your curtains i hope
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i live in a house were decorating our bedroom now means ripping out the floor beam and joists after stripping the walls back to brick, but im quite a fan of william morris but may go for victorian pianted wood wainscotting and all that, the house is stuart but what do you chooseFunnily enough, I found 4 metres in the loft this eve. Tested it for the roof lining but its not 2 way stretch, never mind 4. I'm surprised LZs struggle so much with the utilitarian / luxury mash up. No taste
Wow. An interior design expert too! Definitely Arts and Crafts for modern day Stuart houses I say, especially if there's more detailed mouldings and pannelling away from 'tudor country'. Murals, trellis wallpaper, fabrics ... or, like you say, the wisely selected farrow and balling obliteration of all that is grain. Just like plannng a landy interior. Actually you've given me an idea as I imagined a Stuart house. As you might consider on some of your friezes (hares jumping over a landy ...), real pargetting. I might get some poly resin pargetting panels for my internal cargo panels. Now there's an idea.
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I would report the mot provider.
I would also support the target in a sale where the sale took place using lies far beyond being a little forgetful of the truth.
Yer owe it to others to report it. The mot man is responsible to the man from the ministry. He is there for a reason... To hold up standards. Yer brakes/disks were int bad condition and no eggscuses for it.
It's no use now but I did warn yer to ask someone on ere to go with yer. Sadly the seller would just wait until the next person came along if you din't buy it.
Yer bought it with facts given. Price and condition. Sadly it's up to you to check it even if it's distance buying. Putting yer under time pressure forces peeps to make more mistakes quicker. At the end of the day they just want to sell.
If yer don't report the bad mot then dodgy mots will be available to others. It could be your family in front of the next fake mot car they pass with crap brakes. It could also be a case the good brakes/disks were taken oft after the mot. And the 4 month old battery swopped for an older one...
Photos not being given... The garage won't want to cause themselves any trouble. They may have chosen to not provide them themselves. Using the seller as a eggscuse. It's normal for garages to take photos of work they do these days. Often restoration pics taken for the owner. Regardless if who's camera... The garage took them so they own them. They can give you a copy regardless of what the owners ses. It's your vehicle now. To counter this he paid for the restoration work. But the garage own the pics and you now own the vehicle.
eBay... Time to get yer own back. You have the vehicle. You bought it oft him. Get on eBay and save the eBay listing as a PDF file so it's complete. Also print it out. Get in touch with eBay again and report him cancelling. It won't help your situation but it will cost him money in fees. He may also have his account locked/closed. Get even. Do it. He fuked you. Get eBay to do the same to him. eBay will be keen to get their money owed. The first chat may not if understood.
It's an old vehicle. It's a shame you were taken in by the seller. But chin up. Fix and be appy with it. There isn't much choice now so feel annoyed but try to get past it int time.
I know of a 2 owner Td4 auto 5 door int blue, 2005 with 128k miles ont clock if yer interested. Condition is good and price reasonable. No px. Not me sellin.
I would also support the target in a sale where the sale took place using lies far beyond being a little forgetful of the truth.
Yer owe it to others to report it. The mot man is responsible to the man from the ministry. He is there for a reason... To hold up standards. Yer brakes/disks were int bad condition and no eggscuses for it.
It's no use now but I did warn yer to ask someone on ere to go with yer. Sadly the seller would just wait until the next person came along if you din't buy it.
Yer bought it with facts given. Price and condition. Sadly it's up to you to check it even if it's distance buying. Putting yer under time pressure forces peeps to make more mistakes quicker. At the end of the day they just want to sell.
If yer don't report the bad mot then dodgy mots will be available to others. It could be your family in front of the next fake mot car they pass with crap brakes. It could also be a case the good brakes/disks were taken oft after the mot. And the 4 month old battery swopped for an older one...
Photos not being given... The garage won't want to cause themselves any trouble. They may have chosen to not provide them themselves. Using the seller as a eggscuse. It's normal for garages to take photos of work they do these days. Often restoration pics taken for the owner. Regardless if who's camera... The garage took them so they own them. They can give you a copy regardless of what the owners ses. It's your vehicle now. To counter this he paid for the restoration work. But the garage own the pics and you now own the vehicle.
eBay... Time to get yer own back. You have the vehicle. You bought it oft him. Get on eBay and save the eBay listing as a PDF file so it's complete. Also print it out. Get in touch with eBay again and report him cancelling. It won't help your situation but it will cost him money in fees. He may also have his account locked/closed. Get even. Do it. He fuked you. Get eBay to do the same to him. eBay will be keen to get their money owed. The first chat may not if understood.
It's an old vehicle. It's a shame you were taken in by the seller. But chin up. Fix and be appy with it. There isn't much choice now so feel annoyed but try to get past it int time.
I know of a 2 owner Td4 auto 5 door int blue, 2005 with 128k miles ont clock if yer interested. Condition is good and price reasonable. No px. Not me sellin.
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Agree with you entirely. I downloaded the DVLA form to complain 2 weeks ago. I was happy to pay for a retest and started filling it in. Like I say, I then started thinking that maybe the seller didn't tell his mate (garage owner) that he was intending to sell, promising to get the work done in a few months if he put passed it, and I imagined other ways the interaction might have went, like 'I don't want to spend any money on it, just get it through cos it's going'. The problem I had was, the works needed doing immediately. I could still list all the works I've had done, and fortunately pictures of before and after. I hear what you say about future safety and all, so the middleground I've actioned is this: Ebay are now fully investigating. They've told me it'll take a few months before I hear from them again. Even though it doesn't look like I had buyers protection cos he canccelled the sale, I do in reality. Second, I'm putting together a pdf of the appraisal I had done in the first week of ownership with all faults that should have been attended to before the tratter passed. I'll send this to the garage and ask them for a response. At least I'm pulling them up on what they did. Then I'm just gonna move on. Thanks for the heads up on the TD4, but all but bonded with my tratter now. I just need to give it a name, but I've already decided it's not a she. Maybe I'll call him the four most influential names in his recovery so far: James John Phill Hippo?
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Call it hippo.
I'm a bit confused about where the garage come into it. They restored it 15 years ago. Did they partake it saying this was more recent, or give the vehicle a health check to support the sale and a view of it's condition being better than it was?
There are two garages and a bodyworks shop in his locality. The body done 15 years ago, the very reputable garage owned by landy enthusiasts restored it for him four years ago. Strangeley, the seller took it to the other village garage for the MOT.
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Ah, I see. So in theory the two garages may have done good work on it in the past, and over several years thereafter the owner didn't keep up with wear and tare. Like brake pad/disk renewal, oil/brake leaks etc.
That's about it. Looks like the seller got to crunch time. It was either spend a grand or two or get shut. If it was me and I decided to get shut, I wouldn't post pics of the tratter straight out of the restoration 4/5 years ago with gleaming chassis pics, I wouldn't pretend the spray job was done at the same time, and I wouldn't have said I was selling a nuts and bolts from the bottom up restoration for nearly 10k, that just needed interior work.
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all motors have a history. You & yours are just bonding.
Yes it sounds like you've been ripped off but you could have walked.
I traveled miles with trailers to collect motors & returned empty.
Keep all receipts,dated work etc
This will remind you of work done & make you smile in years to come.
& don't call it phill.
It's needs a name which make you scream, as you will get fooked by it often.
Yes it sounds like you've been ripped off but you could have walked.
I traveled miles with trailers to collect motors & returned empty.
Keep all receipts,dated work etc
This will remind you of work done & make you smile in years to come.
& don't call it phill.
It's needs a name which make you scream, as you will get fooked by it often.
Ayyye dear lol. Yer all F4$£ing pots for rags on here. Love it!all motors have a history. You & yours are just bonding.
Yes it sounds like you've been ripped off but you could have walked.
I traveled miles with trailers to collect motors & returned empty.
Keep all receipts,dated work etc
This will remind you of work done & make you smile in years to come.
& don't call it phill.
It's needs a name which make you scream, as you will get fooked by it often.
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Oh god this reminds of when I was looking for a project, mine has had a very chequered past and I travelled all over Belgium looking for something and came home either very angry or just depressed until I found my Discovery.
I started a build thread before It even got home as I was already an LROi forum member and ran a 3.9 V8 Disco as my daily driver, it's fun to go back and see how bad it was, the blogger blog has been great too as it has enabled me to go back and review stuff and put it into useful blog posts that might just help someone else in the world who's 1st language isn't English (sometimes I look at the analytics for my blog and the hits it gets from Russia and Europe are quite amazing as some people have found it through the images over the written content)
€1200 for a fire damaged and rotten Discovery was probably a bit much in hind sight but the rotten old series that I went to see previously were often 3X the price and needed as much work if not more.
Great blog. It's what I mean about a record/history of the journey. It matters. Cyndy Dy and a Lee Woos were obviously impressed by your mechanics judging by the comments box
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Great blog. It's what I mean about a record/history of the journey. It matters. Cyndy Dy and a Lee Woos were obviously impressed by your mechanics judging by the comments box
Since the goggle catastrophe of 2015 the analytics dropped by a half at least but no big deal, yeah the cyndy and lee comms are great, left them up but comms are disabled and have been for some time now.
My build thread is better though as reading though it from different times reminds me of some of my great/not so great ideas I was having at the time
But one thing I will say is that anyone who rebuilds a vehicle and uses any non standard parts should do both themselves and any potential future owner a favour and at least list in a small book what parts were upgraded and what new part numbers are needed in the future.
Godd idea. Cheers.Since the goggle catastrophe of 2015 the analytics dropped by a half at least but no big deal, yeah the cyndy and lee comms are great, left them up but comms are disabled and have been for some time now.
My build thread is better though as reading though it from different times reminds me of some of my great/not so great ideas I was having at the time
But one thing I will say is that anyone who rebuilds a vehicle and uses any non standard parts should do both themselves and any potential future owner a favour and at least list in a small book what parts were upgraded and what new part numbers are needed in the future.
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