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Had a good day at billing yesterday.
Decided once again to treat the ninety to a set of new wheels and beg,so.
I didn't have them fitted as I was in the mrs car,So took them home with me.
My question is,
They are all balanced but the weight varies and im not sure what wheel goes
on what corner.
200g
155g
130g
120g
Im thinking the 200g front offside,
155g front nearside,
130g rear offside,And 120g rear nearside.
How far out am i please?.


 
Sorry,That should be wheels and bfg,s.





"bones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Had a good day at billing yesterday.
> Decided once again to treat the ninety to a set of new wheels and beg,so.
> I didn't have them fitted as I was in the mrs car,So took them home with
> me.
> My question is,
> They are all balanced but the weight varies and im not sure what wheel
> goes on what corner.
> 200g
> 155g
> 130g
> 120g
> Im thinking the 200g front offside,
> 155g front nearside,
> 130g rear offside,And 120g rear nearside.
> How far out am i please?.
>


 
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:21 +0100, "bones"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Had a good day at billing yesterday.
>Decided once again to treat the ninety to a set of new wheels and beg,so.
>I didn't have them fitted as I was in the mrs car,So took them home with me.
>My question is,
>They are all balanced but the weight varies and im not sure what wheel goes
>on what corner.
>200g
>155g
>130g
>120g
>Im thinking the 200g front offside,
>155g front nearside,
>130g rear offside,And 120g rear nearside.
>How far out am i please?.
>
Err?
You want to know which wheel with which balance weight goes where?


My advice is to go to the stores and ask for a Long Weight and a Left
Handed Scewdriver.

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>>Had a good day at billing yesterday.
>>Decided once again to treat the ninety to a set of new wheels and beg,so.
>>I didn't have them fitted as I was in the mrs car,So took them home with
>>me.
>>My question is,
>>They are all balanced but the weight varies and im not sure what wheel
>>goes
>>on what corner.
>>200g
>>155g
>>130g
>>120g
>>Im thinking the 200g front offside,
>>155g front nearside,
>>130g rear offside,And 120g rear nearside.
>>How far out am i please?.
>>

It doesn't matter, the wheels were obviously balanced off the car, so they
should be fine assuming that there is no huge imbalance on the vehicle
itself.

Jeff


 
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:21 +0100, "bones" <[email protected]>
wrote:

->Im thinking the 200g front offside,
->155g front nearside,
->130g rear offside,And 120g rear nearside.
->How far out am i please?.

Far enough to make me think they should be fitted by a professional, for your
own safety.................


--
Geoff
www.anoraks.uk.net
 
On or around Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:21 +0100, "bones"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Had a good day at billing yesterday.
>Decided once again to treat the ninety to a set of new wheels and beg,so.
>I didn't have them fitted as I was in the mrs car,So took them home with me.
>My question is,
>They are all balanced but the weight varies and im not sure what wheel goes
>on what corner.
>200g
>155g
>130g
>120g

the weights are irrelevant to which position on the car you fit 'em, only
notable thing is that the one with the most weight on it is the furthest
off-balance to start with. Provided they're balanced correctly, though,
it's of no consequence.


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
In news:[email protected],
Geoff <[email protected]> blithered:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:21 +0100, "bones"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ->Im thinking the 200g front offside,
> ->155g front nearside,
> ->130g rear offside,And 120g rear nearside.
> ->How far out am i please?.
>
> Far enough to make me think they should be fitted by a professional,
> for your own safety.................

And more importantly ours!

--
"He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt her doing it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:21 +0100, "bones"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>How far out am i please?.

I think this is the most incredible post I've ever seen on usenet.
No offence or anything, but don't you drive a truck for a living?

 
"Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:21 +0100, "bones"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >How far out am i please?.
>
> I think this is the most incredible post I've ever seen on usenet.
> No offence or anything, but don't you drive a truck for a living?
>

There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers! One of the best things
about this NG (more than any other I look at) is that people can ask
questions where the answers are obvious to others, and get a sensible
response. If you don't know, and you don't ask, then you don't learn.
--
Bob Miller
1990 ex-RAF 110 3.5 V8 17KJ83
1967 3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17


 
On or around Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:32:53 +0100, "Bob Miller"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>"Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:21 +0100, "bones"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >How far out am i please?.
>>
>> I think this is the most incredible post I've ever seen on usenet.
>> No offence or anything, but don't you drive a truck for a living?
>>
>
>There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers! One of the best things
>about this NG (more than any other I look at) is that people can ask
>questions where the answers are obvious to others, and get a sensible
>response. If you don't know, and you don't ask, then you don't learn.

well, he did get a few sensible answers...

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:32:53 +0100, "Bob Miller"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers!

Granted. Questions, however, can be a very good indication as to the
need for urgency of an appropriate answer. This is not having a poke,
or attaching any blame, more a reflection on education. Like I said,
probably the most incredible post I've seen, certainly for some time.

 

"Bob Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:21 +0100, "bones"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >How far out am i please?.
>>
>> I think this is the most incredible post I've ever seen on usenet.
>> No offence or anything, but don't you drive a truck for a living?
>>
>
> There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers! One of the best
> things
> about this NG (more than any other I look at) is that people can ask
> questions where the answers are obvious to others, and get a sensible
> response. If you don't know, and you don't ask, then you don't learn.
> --
> Bob Miller
> 1990 ex-RAF 110 3.5 V8 17KJ83
> 1967 3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17
>
>

No offence taken,And yes i do.
The answer to my question is more than likely obvious to many on here.
I was asking as there *may*have been a reason that the weights varied from
wheel to wheel.
For example:
If you buy aftermarket coil springs,The front and rear poundage is different
as is the left and right.


 
> No offence taken,And yes i do.
> The answer to my question is more than likely obvious to many on here.
> I was asking as there *may*have been a reason that the weights varied from
> wheel to wheel.
> For example:
> If you buy aftermarket coil springs,The front and rear poundage is
different
> as is the left and right.
>
> Fair comment! And as one of my local garages has the facility to balance
wheels *on* the vehicle, it is a fair question.
TonyB


 
In message <[email protected]>, MVP
<mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> writes
>On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:21 +0100, "bones"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Had a good day at billing yesterday.
>>Decided once again to treat the ninety to a set of new wheels and beg,so.
>>I didn't have them fitted as I was in the mrs car,So took them home with me.
>>My question is,
>>They are all balanced but the weight varies and im not sure what wheel goes
>>on what corner.
>>200g
>>155g
>>130g
>>120g
>>Im thinking the 200g front offside,
>>155g front nearside,
>>130g rear offside,And 120g rear nearside.
>>How far out am i please?.
>>
>
>wheels are balanced off the vehicle so they can go on any corner.
>
>
>Regards.
>Mark.
Any of the bottom corners.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:20:27 +0000 (UTC), "TonyB"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Fair comment!

How so?

>And as one of my local garages has the facility to balance
>wheels *on* the vehicle, it is a fair question.

Why?

 
In message <[email protected]>, bones
<[email protected]> writes
>
>"Bob Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:21 +0100, "bones"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >How far out am i please?.
>>>
>>> I think this is the most incredible post I've ever seen on usenet.
>>> No offence or anything, but don't you drive a truck for a living?
>>>
>>
>> There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers! One of the best
>> things
>> about this NG (more than any other I look at) is that people can ask
>> questions where the answers are obvious to others, and get a sensible
>> response. If you don't know, and you don't ask, then you don't learn.
>> --
>> Bob Miller
>> 1990 ex-RAF 110 3.5 V8 17KJ83
>> 1967 3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17
>>
>>
>
>No offence taken,And yes i do.
>The answer to my question is more than likely obvious to many on here.
>I was asking as there *may*have been a reason that the weights varied from
>wheel to wheel.
>For example:
>If you buy aftermarket coil springs,The front and rear poundage is different
>as is the left and right.
>
>
Different situation all together. The weights are added to the
individual wheels to compensate for imperfections in manufacture or
arising due to everyday wear and tear. The weights are different simply
because each wheel/tyre combination is slightly different. Without them
the wheel would vibrate when rotating at high speed putting undue stress
on bearings, suspension and steering, in extreme cases making the
vehicle undriveable. This effect is most noticeable on the front wheels
as the driver can feel the vibration through the steering.

Equipment to balance the wheel/tyre combination has improved over the
years but balancing has typically been done off the vehicle. Doing it in
situ is I suspect largely motivated by the reduction in time taken by
obviating the need to remove/replace each wheel. I've never seen one in
action. There may be a slight improvement in the end result, I don't
know, as there should be no or little imbalance in the actual hub/brake
disc. Maybe someone else can be more definitive.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
>
> >And as one of my local garages has the facility to balance
> >wheels *on* the vehicle, it is a fair question.

Because balancing with the wheels on the vehicle will also balance out
slight imperfections in the shafts too, especially if the vehicle has been
kerbed or off-roaded. Trouble is, every time a wheel is removed, not only
must it go back on the same corner but also on the same studs as it was when
it came off.

This technique successfully cured an out of true wobble on a car I had which
had been kerbed. Normal balancing didn't do the job.

TonyB


 
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:13:55 +0000 (UTC), "TonyB"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This technique successfully cured an out of true wobble on a car I had which
>had been kerbed. Normal balancing didn't do the job.

I'm somewhat concerned to believe that balancing a wheel 'on the
vehicle' should be seen as a viable option to compensate for damaged
steering or suspension.

 
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