Tyres to avoid on a Disco !! DANGER DANGER

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That's what triggered me to remember ... Contis have a very good name for all types of tyre and it'd be rare to get one set that's faulty, and the way it's happening to tbl was identical to how my mates problem manifested itself.

He does think it was a one-off, he thinks he caught the A-frame bracket on an upended tree/root off-roading. Everything looked reasonable at a quick check, but one side of the yoke/bracket holding the front drivers side was basically snapped off, so occasionally simply didn't support the A-frame at all. Most other times the bolt through the bush must have been enough to keep it together. The MOT fella felt something, swung on it and almost (he says) pulled the thing off completely!! Spot of welding and all OK.
 
We have had a similar problem with our 1998 discovery.
It has Continental SUV 104T M+S fitted.
My problem is that under normal hardish braking on wet roads the front brakes just lock up and slide. If I have my Ifor Williams flat trailer on the back their isn't enough braking effect to actuate the overrun brakes on the trailer.
It is not safe to drive at times but is an intermitant problem. A few weeks ago it was terrible but later in the day they worked ok.
My mechanic took it for a test drive, did one attempt at a stop and took it back to the garage and said it wasn't safe to drive.
He fitted a new master cylinder to see if the rear wheel braking could be improved. At the moment the brakes seem to be working a lot better.
I would consider this before blaming the tyres completely but i wonder if the tyres are part of the problem.
 
G-man said:
i have being saying for years contis are ****, when i worked for vag i had loads of problems with them de-laminating the tread was splitting across the width and lifting off
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Can't say I've had any experience with Contis on a 4x4 but I am really surprised by what you say about your experience at VAG. I've been running Conti Premium Contacts for years and I find they have fantastic wet/dry grip on my 150 Golf. Had em on my old A4 too, you don't get brilliant mileage with them though :(
 
Medusa said:
Can't say I've had any experience with Contis on a 4x4 but I am really surprised by what you say about your experience at VAG. I've been running Conti Premium Contacts for years and I find they have fantastic wet/dry grip on my 150 Golf. Had em on my old A4 too, you don't get brilliant mileage with them though :(
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Noisy on the road tho:lalala:
 
I had problems a few years ago with a conti tyre on my motorbike, the thing shown signs of splitting down the middle :eek:

needless to say i have never used them on ANY veichle since ;)
 
I used these tyres for about 7000 miles with no probs to speak of :confused:

Might be a bad batch??

Might be worth checking the rear trailing arm bush that fits to the chassis as when mine went the car was "rear steering" :eek: ............. had a couple of brown trouser moments i can tell ya :eek: :pound:
 
thebiglad said:
I just thought I would relay experiences I've had on a new set of tyres on my Tdi300auto Disco.

Old ones were worn out so I searched the market and came across a bargain deal of 4 new tyres for 270 euros. The make was Continental and they were road-biased "Contact 4x4 m&s".

Ok so new tyres always makes your car feel nice, but one day in Limoges I had to brake sharply (not paying enough attention :oops: ) and she locked up and slid, so I was into the old cadence braking like a man possessed and all was resolved without further drama. The road was slightly humid after a dry spell so I assumed it was muck and shîte on the roads, not yet washed away.

Got to Guéret, going round a roundabout and lost the back end !!!! Didn't like this at all. When I got home I told the wife and she said get some more tyres!! I said no, it'll be fine.

In the mean time I bought her another Disco and fitted it out with General AT2's - very confidence-inspiring.

So, we went out in mine yesterday gently ambling along some country roads, through a series of bends, when the car starts doing a walzing Mathilda, first the backend slides to the right, steer into it and she slides violently to the left and we are heading for the edge of a ravine about 50mtrs deep !!! :shock: Managed to brake to stop us going over the edge.

Damage? just a little bit of scrape (most of it will polish out??) down one side and nothing else - fortunately.

Got home, straight on the phone to Paddocks - "4 General AT2's please - quick as you like !!!)

You can only speak as you find, but I've NEVER lost traction on-road before with any of my Landys, so I can only put it down to these tyres.

You have been warned :shock:

Cheers and a Merry Christmas to all our readers
Dave
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I presume you didn't put the tyres on yourself so have you checked the pressures? Tyre fitters are'nt reknowned for accuracy. I've had Continentals myself and never had a problem and I'm no slouch.
 
Update:

I wrote to Continental in Germany just before Christmas and today have recieved an e-mail saying that they want to take and tyre and factory test it. They say that IF they find fault they would be prepared to calculate an amount of credit, in relation to the wear existant, and give this to the local supplier.

Well, that doesn't suit me for several reasons:

1. I bought them off the internet, so no local supplier, only local fitter;

2. I bought them off the internet because they were so much cheaper than local suppliers (yes I know, just what I was thinking too, stupid!!);

3. Any mileage-related credit (which will be peanuts) at a local supplier will be nigh on worthless.

So, I plan to e-mail the man tommorrow and say that I don't accept his proposal of sending any credit back to a local supplier, as they were not the initial supplier - the credit should come back to me.

I suspect this will end up being worthless, but at least I've now got my 4 shiny new AT²'s to go on !!!

Incidently, I checked the various linkages on the back axle, no obvious faults and the braking in the dry is also immaculate.

It's the tyres, is all.
 
I find your accident/problem very intriguing.... I had Continentals fitted to my Discovery last week and also experienced problems (of a complete different sort, take a look here).

My problems probably do not have anything to do with the tyres, but still...

I find it very interesting that you also have Continentals fitted (it might be a coincidence, but still!).

Rgds,

Robert
 
301TDI said:
I find your accident/problem very intriguing.... I had Continentals fitted to my Discovery last week and also experienced problems (of a complete different sort, take a look here).

My problems probably do not have anything to do with the tyres, but still...

I find it very interesting that you also have Continentals fitted (it might be a coincidence, but still!).

Rgds,

Robert
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Hi Robert, I'm about to sound like an old git, but, I've been driving for nearly 40yrs and I have NEVER experienced anything like what happened last week, on these Continental tyres.

This cannot be a coincidence as it started to happen not that long after I had them fitted. So, I have no faith in Conti tyres of any sort under any conditions.

The more I read your thread the more convinced I become that something happened during the fitting of you tyres.

Have you checked the tyre pressures yet??
 
thebiglad said:
Hi Robert, I'm about to sound like an old git, but, I've been driving for nearly 40yrs and I have NEVER experienced anything like what happened last week, on these Continental tyres.

This cannot be a coincidence as it started to happen not that long after I had them fitted. So, I have no faith in Conti tyres of any sort under any conditions.

The more I read your thread the more convinced I become that something happened during the fitting of you tyres.

Have you checked the tyre pressures yet??
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the car`s at the 4x4-expert now and they will get back to me next week with their findings.... I am very curious to find out what might be the cause of the shaking.

I will keep you posted.

Rgds,

Robert
 
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