Turbo priming ?

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Steve

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• Dec 5, 2005

• #1

Hi folks,

Apart from after a complete stripdown, does the turbocharger in a 200Tdi
need repriming after a long time idle ? This new engine I have picked up
hasn't been run in a year.

Thanks

Steve

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Dec 5, 2005

• #2

Steve <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Hi folks,
>
> Apart from after a complete stripdown, does the turbocharger in a
> 200Tdi need repriming after a long time idle ? This new engine I have
> picked up hasn't been run in a year.
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve

Personal opinion, As long as your not thraping it when it fires up and your
oil pressure light is rigged up then just go with the flow dude.

Realistically it will have sorted it's self anyway by the time you get the
air out of the rest of the system.

Lee D

 

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EMB

Guest

• Dec 5, 2005

• #3

Steve wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Apart from after a complete stripdown, does the turbocharger in a 200Tdi
> need repriming after a long time idle ? This new engine I have picked up
> hasn't been run in a year.

It's not a silly idea. However I'd be priming the whole engine - by
whipping the glow plugs out, disconnecting thestop solenoid wire and
spinning it on the starter until it builds oil pressure. By that time
the turbo will be primed too.


--
EMB

 

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Steve

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• Dec 5, 2005

• #4

EMB wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Apart from after a complete stripdown, does the turbocharger in a
>> 200Tdi need repriming after a long time idle ? This new engine I have
>> picked up hasn't been run in a year.
>
> It's not a silly idea. However I'd be priming the whole engine - by
> whipping the glow plugs out, disconnecting thestop solenoid wire and
> spinning it on the starter until it builds oil pressure. By that time
> the turbo will be primed too.
>
>

The 200Tdi WILL self prime will it ? The V8 wouldn't would it ?

Steve

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Dec 5, 2005

• #5

Steve <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:

>> It's not a silly idea. However I'd be priming the whole engine - by
>> whipping the glow plugs out, disconnecting thestop solenoid wire and
>> spinning it on the starter until it builds oil pressure. By that
>> time the turbo will be primed too.
>>
>>
>
> The 200Tdi WILL self prime will it ? The V8 wouldn't would it ?
>
> Steve

Your V8 had a turbo? .... and you pulled it out......?



V8 oil pumps don't normally self prime and need packing with petroleum jelly
if thats what you mean.

Never heard any isues of 200tdi's priming their pump. Has the engine got oil
in? The way I read it it had just been stood as opposed to drained.

Lee D

 

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Steve

Guest

• Dec 5, 2005

• #6

Lee_D wrote:

> Your V8 had a turbo? .... and you pulled it out......?
Pay attention at the back...

> V8 oil pumps don't normally self prime and need packing with petroleum jelly
> if thats what you mean.
Yes.

> Never heard any isues of 200tdi's priming their pump. Has the engine got oil
> in? The way I read it it had just been stood as opposed to drained.
You're right. Just stood, AFAIK.

Steve

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Dec 5, 2005

• #7

On or around Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:54:10 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Never heard any isues of 200tdi's priming their pump. Has the engine got oil
>in? The way I read it it had just been stood as opposed to drained.

I've heard of a 200 TDi which survived idling for about half an hour with
the vehicle on its side...

meanwhile... start it at idle, or prime the oil system as EMB suggests, and
don't rev it for a minute or so.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria"
- Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321) from Divina Commedia 'Inferno'

 

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Steve

Guest

• Dec 5, 2005

• #8

Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:54:10 -0000, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Never heard any isues of 200tdi's priming their pump. Has the engine got oil
>> in? The way I read it it had just been stood as opposed to drained.
>
> I've heard of a 200 TDi which survived idling for about half an hour with
> the vehicle on its side...
>
> meanwhile... start it at idle, or prime the oil system as EMB suggests, and
> don't rev it for a minute or so.

Ta,
I now have TWO 200Tdi plants to play with - my infamous rebuild project
and one I picked up on Saturday, Rather than bugger about fitting them
to the 101s and then finding out there's a problem, we're making up a
test stand to mount them on and crank 'em up.

Steve

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Dec 6, 2005

• #9

On or around Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:56:02 +0000, Steve
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:54:10 -0000, "Lee_D"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> Never heard any isues of 200tdi's priming their pump. Has the engine got oil
>>> in? The way I read it it had just been stood as opposed to drained.
>>
>> I've heard of a 200 TDi which survived idling for about half an hour with
>> the vehicle on its side...
>>
>> meanwhile... start it at idle, or prime the oil system as EMB suggests, and
>> don't rev it for a minute or so.
>
>Ta,
>I now have TWO 200Tdi plants to play with - my infamous rebuild project
>and one I picked up on Saturday, Rather than bugger about fitting them
>to the 101s and then finding out there's a problem, we're making up a
>test stand to mount them on and crank 'em up.

gwaan, fit both of 'em to the 101... you know you want to...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine... War is hell"
Gen. Sherman (1820-1891) Attr. words in Address at Michigan Military
Academy, 19 June 1879.

 

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Steve

Guest

• Dec 6, 2005

• #10

Austin Shackles wrote:

> gwaan, fit both of 'em to the 101... you know you want to...

Noooooooo.

Steve

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Dec 6, 2005

• #11

"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> gwaan, fit both of 'em to the 101... you know you want to...
>
> Noooooooo.
>
> Steve

Nah , couldn't do it... look how long one engine is taking.....


;-)

Lee D

 

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Steve Taylor

Guest

• Dec 6, 2005

• #12

Lee_D wrote:
> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>>> gwaan, fit both of 'em to the 101... you know you want to...
>> Noooooooo.
>>
>> Steve
>
> Nah , couldn't do it... look how long one engine is taking.....
a.) Smart arse.
b.) Engine 2 is known working.
besides, wait till you see engine 1.

Steve

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Dec 6, 2005

• #13

"Steve Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> Nah , couldn't do it... look how long one engine is taking.....
> a.) Smart arse.
> b.) Engine 2 is known working.
> besides, wait till you see engine 1.
>
> Steve

:-D

 

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Dougal

Guest

• Dec 6, 2005

• #14

EMB wrote:

> Steve wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Apart from after a complete stripdown, does the turbocharger in a
>> 200Tdi need repriming after a long time idle ? This new engine I have
>> picked up hasn't been run in a year.
>
>
> It's not a silly idea. However I'd be priming the whole engine - by
> whipping the glow plugs out, disconnecting the stop solenoid wire and
> spinning it on the starter until it builds oil pressure. By that time
> the turbo will be primed too.

It's a very wise idea. Undo the oil inlet banjo and squirt some oil into
the inlet. Don't be stingy - squirt lots in.

The advice on priming the whole engine (i.e. filling all the oil
galleries) is sound. Let the engine idle for a bit once started.

 

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Tom Woods

Guest

• Dec 7, 2005

• #15

On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:45:13 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>> Nah , couldn't do it... look how long one engine is taking.....
>> a.) Smart arse.

Lee is just bitter as he can't manage to get a v8 into a 2A

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Dec 7, 2005

• #16

Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:45:13 -0000, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>> Nah , couldn't do it... look how long one engine is taking.....
>>>> a.) Smart arse.
>
> Lee is just bitter as he can't manage to get a v8 into a 2A

It's in.... but it's gotta come out again, and given how long it all took
the first time around (Jag lump) then don't hold yer breath

Lee D

 

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Tim Hobbs

Guest

• Dec 7, 2005

• #17

>>
>> Lee is just bitter as he can't manage to get a v8 into a 2A
>
>It's in.... but it's gotta come out again, and given how long it all took
>the first time around (Jag lump) then don't hold yer breath

What? How many engine swaps can one car have?

You DO know that you can put petrol in the hole on the side don't you?
There's no need to pull the engine out and squirt it back up the
pipe...

--
Tim Hobbs

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Dec 7, 2005

• #18

Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>>> Lee is just bitter as he can't manage to get a v8 into a 2A
>>
>> It's in.... but it's gotta come out again, and given how long it all
>> took the first time around (Jag lump) then don't hold yer breath
>
> What? How many engine swaps can one car have?
>
> You DO know that you can put petrol in the hole on the side don't you?
> There's no need to pull the engine out and squirt it back up the
> pipe...

so this ain't normal petrol station practice then? ...

http://www.lrproject.com/percy/january2005/

Now a V8 nestling on the auto, buggering chassis beat me to it though.

Lee D