Towing a Defender
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Pikey
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NO they can't
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badadj
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I thought C18rch was on about they A frames where the front wheels sit on the frame which is attached to the towing vehicule.
In which case no.
In which case no.
I was meaning the ones that attach to the axles and steer the front wheels. Any one know?
The problem is I past my test after 97 and cannot tow my trials landy on a trailer without a C+E license, but a wit h a towing frame I can. The trials vehicle is road legal but I have no desire to tax or insure it hence why I want to tow it.
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C18RCH
The problem is I past my test after 97 and cannot tow my trials landy on a trailer without a C+E license, but a wit h a towing frame I can. The trials vehicle is road legal but I have no desire to tax or insure it hence why I want to tow it.
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C18RCH
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Ah towed a def 110 the other week there with one of the A frames that fix over the bumper
it was a bit hairy drivin' and couldn't go over 20mph!!!! Ah was told it should've bin runnin' or summit taken off underneath as it felt like it was fighting where ah wanted it tae go!!
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Tricky one that. I would double check that you don't need to tax and insure the vehicle if you are going to tow it with all four wheels still on the road.
In theory it is on and is using the road, or is it then classed as a trailer because it is being towed with a solid bar.
In which case your licence says that you can't tow it anyway.
I can tow trailers but only upto a certain weight. The landy towed with a towing frame would be under weight but the landy on a trailer would be over the weight. Once the trailer plus load reaches a certain weight it is at this point that you require the C+E.
Also I do believe the landy would be classed as a trailer when being towed. This is the same for vehicles being recovered.
Also I do believe the landy would be classed as a trailer when being towed. This is the same for vehicles being recovered.
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It's illegal to tow any car with an Aframe or dolly with the exception of an (Axiom micro car.) unless it is an emergency recovery and the vehicle is been moved to a place of safety.
Mainly because all trailers in excess of 750kg are required by law to be fitteed with either 'overrun brakes' (upto 3500kg) or close coupled brakes (Airbrakes), there is no Aframe or dolly which would meet the C&U regulations for trailers. Therefore no you can't. Having said this you can't sell heroin, or kill someone in a road rage incident but people still do it.
Futher more the law states that if a vehicle is designed for use on a public road then it is a motor vehicle attaching an Aframe does not change this.. If it's a motor vehicle then it must be taxed and mot'd if it is used or parked on a public highway.
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I think you're only allowed to tow 750 Kg on the new liscense anyway so what ever you do you're screwed. I have to say its a crazy rule when you can't tow a trailer but can tow a 20 foot tri-axle caravan. I have looked into the trailer test for one of my employees, its quite expensive.
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Caravans are classed as trailers for the purposes of B + E licence requirements. and have to be within the rules regarding the MAM of not exceeding the unladen weight of the vehicle (unlikely with a landrover)
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I've looked at the above and it looks a bit confusing so I did a bit of research and this is what I came up with. on a B entitlement licence
A 90 has a MAM (also known as GVW) off 2400kg this means the trailers maximum authorised MAM is 1100kg
A 110 has a MAM of 3050 so it's maximum trailer MAM is 750kg.
A 90 has a MAM (also known as GVW) off 2400kg this means the trailers maximum authorised MAM is 1100kg
A 110 has a MAM of 3050 so it's maximum trailer MAM is 750kg.
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If towing a vehicle with all four of it's wheels on the road it does need to be road legal, ie mot'd, taxed and insured.
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it costs £89 for the B+E test, i paid 200 notes for 3 1/2 days intensive training on top of that. if you already know how to tow/reverse/fit a trailer/check you mirrors there's not much else to the training other than lots of driving! if you contact your local LGV driving center they will probably hook you up with some instructors.
don't know if training + buying trailer would be cheaper that taxing and insuring your trialer though.
don't know if training + buying trailer would be cheaper that taxing and insuring your trialer though.
