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Gwyn

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I enjoy green laning with my Disco TD5 Auto which has an orignal LR towbar on the back so, i'm reasonably happy that if I needed to be pulled out backwards that should'nt be a problem but, the front end gives me caus for concern as there is only the standard towin eye hidden behind the access cover under the bumper valance. Is there anything else that I could fit or use, bearing in mind that I really do not want to chop the front bumper about or will the standard towin eye suffice !! :confused:

Any suggestions or advise on this one ?
 
^ what he said, then again , i 'v had mine in a box fer a year now and still int put it on, got a nato hitch front and back fer me trailers, so that will pull anything,
 
See where you'r coming from guys but, looked on Paddocks site an they don't seem to list a guard for the Disco II.
 
can you not fit jate rings direct to the chassis rail on a disco2?

steering guards are over rated. I personally dont think you need one if you drive with your eyes open. I bought one for my 90 but sold it on again.

G
 
Strop: under axle at the off-side; over the top of the diff housing, back under other side of the axle, loops brought back together to form a bridle. Strop is kept low, away from the valence, and lines of force are beneficial as they dont have to be transmitted through the suspension links.
 
teflon are you serious?

I have fitted a discoII steering guard and jate rings to a LZ members motor. Jate rings are a pain need to cut the bumper fpr them to exit. Steering guard well i hate them if you can drive no need for them but all that said it has proved ok but by its design it wasn't the best. Due to being quite thin and pulling on a welded joint. All that said it has done well to date bit of a fiddle to fit but can be done. Probably your best bet TBH.

Wouldnt suggest pulling from the axle unless the motor needs to be moved in an emergency. If you are really stuck I have seen idiots bending axle casings. Mabe works well on old lr's but since 1990 the axle casings are like kit kat foil.
 
teflon are you serious?

I have fitted a discoII steering guard and jate rings to a LZ members motor. Jate rings are a pain need to cut the bumper fpr them to exit. Steering guard well i hate them if you can drive no need for them but all that said it has proved ok but by its design it wasn't the best. Due to being quite thin and pulling on a welded joint. All that said it has done well to date bit of a fiddle to fit but can be done. Probably your best bet TBH.

Wouldnt suggest pulling from the axle unless the motor needs to be moved in an emergency. If you are really stuck I have seen idiots bending axle casings. Mabe works well on old lr's but since 1990 the axle casings are like kit kat foil.

That'll be me :D

Jai is right, he and Phil put a lot of time and effort into fitting the jate rings and steering guard. The bumper needs to be cut on the offside to get to the mounting point.

The recovery points on the steering guard itself are quite low so likely to be in mud if you needed recovery.

Oh, and my strong advice is do NOT rely on being able to be recovered backwards!
 
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That'll be me :D

Jai is right, he and Phil put a lot of time and effort into fitting the jate rings and steering guard. The bumper needs to be cut on the offside to get to the mounting point.

The recovery points on the steering guard itself are quite low so likely to be in mud if you needed recovery.

Oh, and my strong advice is do NOT rely on being able to be recovered backwards!

;) yer right there ,
 
hey Ray,
Yea your steering guard is great just add a bridal before you get off the tarmac and tie it up at bonnet level. Its the best way and the guard disco01 has is ideal i had doubts but its been good so far Jai
 
Stropping the axle is a procedure in the REME recovery manual, and a technique that used to be vaunted, and a few years ago, you could actually buy an axle bridle 'kit', basically winch-cable, permenantly attached to the axle at the swivil flanges, and looped up to the chassis and held on cable ties that would 'pop' when recovery force applied.
Using a strop on the axle isn't a convenient way to bridle, and you cant put the strop on ahead of getting stuck; but does have merit.
Caution is to lay the strop carefuly at the swivil flanges and over the hokey brackets, the strongest section of the axle, and where the line of action is 'best'.
when stuck, its the axle that is subject to most drag, and recovering from the chassis means that the entire recovery force has to be transmitted through the chassis and suspension to the bit that's stuck, the axle.
Bridling off the axle, line of force puts the recovery force where the resistance is, lestening the force on all intermediary links.
Its particularly advantageouse on a 'snatch' recovery, as the shock force goes straight to where its most needed, and isn't 'damped' by the suspension or body rock, and there is less chance of riping out a recovery point or such.
YES can put a very high load on the axle, but if you are employing a high energy recovery technique, thats true wherever you bridle.
As said, you dont just loop round the tube, you take the bridle round the swivil flanges, where the casing is strongest and forces have best line of action.
And We'reTalking about a Green-Lane Disco here, not a challenge truck, and a bloke that doesn't want to trim his valence!
Come ON!
If he doesn't want to trim his valence, he's NOT going to be taking it into very 'extreme' situations, is he?
If he gets stuck, not likely to be up to the chassis gloop, in the bottome of a gulley!
Not likely to be employing a high energy recovery, where applying a tube crushing force likely to be a worry.
Mean while, bridling off the axle means he doesn't have to trim the valence, and when recovering, low angle of action should mean that the valence wont get fouled by the bridle.
 
REME Ah! I worked with them top blokes pitty the Army isn't always all that great at teaching driving. I lost count the ammount of clutches the workshop fitted in a 6 month period. LT77's blowing up left right and center and wire strops attached to the back of Canadian AVGP's and wrapped around the Landy axle ripping off brake calipers and all sorts.

OK I get your point about not being very stuck but I have seen my fair share of new motors that are to be kept nice trashed at pay and plays/greenlaning because they got a bit too into it/egged on by others etc.

Fair point it can be done. I wouldn't unless in an emergency. I would suggest a intergrated steering guard for a fit once soloution minimal hassel after fitment. I'm not a keen fan of steering guards in general but on a Disco2 yea I can see them as a very good idea to keep the pull down low.
 
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