torque/angle? 200tdi help!

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steve

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• Feb 2, 2005

• #1

Help I'm doing timing belt on 200 tdi today and need an angle figure to
use to set the tension on the belt, my haynes manual says to use a dial
type torque wrench but I have a clicktype and a degree disk dial
gauge....any info on this would be great

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Feb 3, 2005

• #2

On or around Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:07:21 +0000, steve
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Help I'm doing timing belt on 200 tdi today and need an angle figure to
>use to set the tension on the belt, my haynes manual says to use a dial
>type torque wrench but I have a clicktype and a degree disk dial
>gauge....any info on this would be great

the other sort of torque wrench is what you need, though, since it applies a
steady torque. The angle gauge is not the same thing, that's for
angle-tightening.

You can get 'em quite cheap; I think mine (average Draper) was about 15
quid. and it comes in handy for other things.


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beamendsltd

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• Feb 3, 2005

• #3

In message <[email protected]>
steve <[email protected]> wrote:

> Help I'm doing timing belt on 200 tdi today and need an angle figure to
> use to set the tension on the belt, my haynes manual says to use a dial
> type torque wrench but I have a clicktype and a degree disk dial
> gauge....any info on this would be great

You need the "torsion bar" type torque wrench as you need
to maintian a fixed torque when tightening, its not an angle
thing. Any motor parts place will have one - massive accuracy
is not required, so no great expense should be necesary.

Cheers
Richard

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steve

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• Feb 3, 2005

• #4

steve wrote:
> Help I'm doing timing belt on 200 tdi today and need an angle figure to
> use to set the tension on the belt, my haynes manual says to use a dial
> type torque wrench but I have a clicktype and a degree disk dial
> gauge....any info on this would be great
I have had a few torsion bar type ones over the years ...last one got
badly bent where the square drive joins the body whilst doing an
emergency cylinderhead gasket job...thing is i'm sure i've seen
somewhere a degree setting to equal the torque one in the haynes manual
ta for feedback tho guys...Steve

 

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Jon

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• Feb 7, 2005

• #5

OK, at the risk of sounding daft...

I have just taken my 200tdi belt off to get to the gaskets behing the
timing case (another story...)

Before I removed the belt I twisted the longest section of the belt
(between the crankshaft and camshaft) to get a mental note of the
tension (just over 1/4" twist).

Now I havent put the thing back together yet but, not having one of
these "different" torquey things couldnt I adjust the idler until I
get the desired "twist", turn the crank around twice (as per worksop
manual / Haynes) and re-adjust and hey presto???


How excact does the tension need to be? Granted Ive never done a tdi
before but I have done my old VW Polo a couple of times (Petrol) and
my Diesel Citroen in this way, nothings gone bang yet???

Is this a sure road to diaster (and £££'s) for a tdi?

Jon


On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:07:21 +0000, steve <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Help I'm doing timing belt on 200 tdi today and need an angle figure to
>use to set the tension on the belt, my haynes manual says to use a dial
>type torque wrench but I have a clicktype and a degree disk dial
>gauge....any info on this would be great

 

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EMB

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• Feb 7, 2005

• #6

Jon wrote:
> OK, at the risk of sounding daft...
>
> Is this a sure road to diaster (and £££'s) for a tdi?

Go and spend 10 quid on a pointer type torque wrench and do it properly
- the twist method is basically useless. If it all goes pear shaped
you're in for big money, and you'll feel pretty stupid if it all
happened because you were too tight to buy a cheap tool.


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EMB

 

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Jon

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• Feb 9, 2005

• #7

I guess your right.

Halfords here i come...



On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 10:44:03 +1300, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:

>Jon wrote:
>> OK, at the risk of sounding daft...
>>
>> Is this a sure road to diaster (and £££'s) for a tdi?
>
>Go and spend 10 quid on a pointer type torque wrench and do it properly
>- the twist method is basically useless. If it all goes pear shaped
>you're in for big money, and you'll feel pretty stupid if it all
>happened because you were too tight to buy a cheap tool.

 

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steve

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• Feb 10, 2005

• #8

Jon wrote:
> I guess your right.
>
> Halfords here i come...
>
>
>
> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 10:44:03 +1300, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Jon wrote:
>>
>>>OK, at the risk of sounding daft...
>>>
>>>Is this a sure road to diaster (and £££'s) for a tdi?
>>
>>Go and spend 10 quid on a pointer type torque wrench and do it properly
>>- the twist method is basically useless. If it all goes pear shaped
>>you're in for big money, and you'll feel pretty stupid if it all
>>happened because you were too tight to buy a cheap tool.
>
>
I tried halfords today in edinburgh and they said that they had stopped
stocking that sort...had a fine selection of click type ones
though...guess they think no one does their own timing belts even though
they sell the belts...bah!
S

 

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Jon

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• Feb 10, 2005

• #9

must admit in the end i couldnt be arsed to trek to the nearest
Halfords and instead went to the local boy racer car shop on the off
chance.

They had one, used it last night - Must say i am a convert. The
little 1/2" square hole to put the drive makes the job a doddle.

Must say though I havent had it running again yet!



On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:24:54 +0000, steve <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Jon wrote:
>> I guess your right.
>>
>> Halfords here i come...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 10:44:03 +1300, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jon wrote:
>>>
>>>>OK, at the risk of sounding daft...
>>>>
>>>>Is this a sure road to diaster (and £££'s) for a tdi?
>>>
>>>Go and spend 10 quid on a pointer type torque wrench and do it properly
>>>- the twist method is basically useless. If it all goes pear shaped
>>>you're in for big money, and you'll feel pretty stupid if it all
>>>happened because you were too tight to buy a cheap tool.
>>
>>
>I tried halfords today in edinburgh and they said that they had stopped
>stocking that sort...had a fine selection of click type ones
>though...guess they think no one does their own timing belts even though
>they sell the belts...bah!
>S

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Feb 10, 2005

• #10

On or around Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:04:26 +0000, Jon <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>must admit in the end i couldnt be arsed to trek to the nearest
>Halfords and instead went to the local boy racer car shop on the off
>chance.
>
>They had one, used it last night - Must say i am a convert. The
>little 1/2" square hole to put the drive makes the job a doddle.
>
>Must say though I havent had it running again yet!

Draper do the pointer-type torque wrenches.

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