Thoughts post diff fitting.

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Well, I've swopped the diffs - grateful thanks to all who listened and
contributed patiently to my endless questions.

The only problems encountered, apart from the stupid lop sided weight of
the item - I've no idea how my wife carried it into her car but
apparently I owe her a lot of favours now - were getting it off the
studs and manoeuvring it around the bottom of the self levelling gas
strut. I thought I had it all nicely set up for working on with the
axle on high-ish stands only to discover that I had to lift the body a
few inches to raise the bottom of the strut. Thanks heavens for high
lift jacks.


Studying the old diff didn't reveal any missing or broken parts; just
more play in the bearing than the new one has. However, the
differential cross shaft sticks out at one side and one of the bearing
nut locking fingers is bent. Would either of those matter? There are
pictures here:

http://www.ofoto.co.uk/I.jsp?c=18izn9a9.16ac8qel&x=0&y=vlf338

Rgds and thanks

Richard


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On or around Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:59:10 +0000, Richard <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Well, I've swopped the diffs - grateful thanks to all who listened and
>contributed patiently to my endless questions.
>
>
>http://www.ofoto.co.uk/I.jsp?c=18izn9a9.16ac8qel&x=0&y=vlf338

is there a way of getting those to come on-screen at full size? if not, I
suggest a different photo-hosting site.

they come up about 640x480 here, and no obvious way to view full-size, yet
claim something like 2400x1800 or something.
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Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> is there a way of getting those to come on-screen at full size? if not, I
> suggest a different photo-hosting site.
>
> they come up about 640x480 here, and no obvious way to view full-size, yet
> claim something like 2400x1800 or something.


I'm more than open to suggestions of other hosting sites.

The Ofoto claims may be an encouragement to buy the picture. Sorry, I
did not look at them.

Whilst waiting for suggestions I will try to publish them on my ISPs space.

Rgds Richard

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Richard wrote:

> Well, I've swopped the diffs - grateful thanks to all who listened and
> contributed patiently to my endless questions.
>
> The only problems encountered, apart from the stupid lop sided weight of
> the item - I've no idea how my wife carried it into her car but
> apparently I owe her a lot of favours now - were getting it off the
> studs and manoeuvring it around the bottom of the self levelling gas
> strut. I thought I had it all nicely set up for working on with the
> axle on high-ish stands only to discover that I had to lift the body a
> few inches to raise the bottom of the strut. Thanks heavens for high
> lift jacks.
>
>
> Studying the old diff didn't reveal any missing or broken parts; just
> more play in the bearing than the new one has. However, the
> differential cross shaft sticks out at one side and one of the bearing
> nut locking fingers is bent. Would either of those matter? There are
> pictures here:
>
> http://www.ofoto.co.uk/I.jsp?c=18izn9a9.16ac8qel&x=0&y=vlf338
>
> Rgds and thanks
>
> Richard
>
>
Bearing lock finger bend shouldn't make any difference - but the shaft looks
to stick out too far both ends - is it broken?
JD
 
On or around Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:58:45 +0000, Richard <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>> is there a way of getting those to come on-screen at full size? if not, I
>> suggest a different photo-hosting site.
>>
>> they come up about 640x480 here, and no obvious way to view full-size, yet
>> claim something like 2400x1800 or something.
>
>
>I'm more than open to suggestions of other hosting sites.
>
>The Ofoto claims may be an encouragement to buy the picture. Sorry, I
>did not look at them.
>
>Whilst waiting for suggestions I will try to publish them on my ISPs space.

try something called fotopic.net - I don't use it meself, but I've seen it
used by others.

but if you have free webspace, you may as well use it :)

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Academy, 19 June 1879.
 
Austin Shackles wrote:

>
>
> try something called fotopic.net - I don't use it meself, but I've seen it
> used by others.
>
> but if you have free webspace, you may as well use it :)
>

Thanks Austin. Apropos using my free webspace; that may well tax my
computing powers just a little too much. Nildram recommend WSFTP or
Leach FTP, neither of which I own or have used. Ofoto is (was)
attractive because it has an idiot-proof front end. I'll persevere tho'.

Rgds Richard


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JD wrote:

>>
>
> Bearing lock finger bend shouldn't make any difference - but the shaft looks
> to stick out too far both ends - is it broken?
> JD

You may be right about the broken shaft. I can pull the exposed end out
until it touches the crown wheel (correct name?). If it is broken, how
could I have done that. More important, wouldn't (shouldn't?) I have
heard the bang?

I was showing SWMBO how to engage and disengage the diff lock the day
before the knocking became apparent - but only to the extent of 'the
lever's bloody stiff to move, there now it's engaged, now do the
opposite to disenged it. If it appears not to have disengaged (light
on) you drive backwards until the light goes out. But AFAIUI locking
the centre diff has no effect on the operation of the axle diffs - or am
I wrong?

Richard


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Austin Shackles wrote:

> try something called fotopic.net - I don't use it meself, but I've seen it
> used by others.
>
> but if you have free webspace, you may as well use it :)
>

Austin,

They're queued for fotopic at:

http://richard2808.fotopic.net/c407742.html

They're about a meg each (which may be going from the sublime to the
ridiculous)

Apparently it may take up to 2 hours for them to appear!!


Sorry

Richard


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Richard wrote:

>
> Austin,
>
> They're queued for fotopic at:
>
> http://richard2808.fotopic.net/c407742.html
>
> They're about a meg each (which may be going from the sublime to the
> ridiculous)
>
> Apparently it may take up to 2 hours for them to appear!!
>
>
> Sorry
>
> Richard
>
>

They're up there now!

Richard

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>> Bearing lock finger bend shouldn't make any difference

That's allowed.

> You may be right about the broken shaft. I can pull the exposed end out
> until it touches the crown wheel (correct name?).

It's broken. In the photo it looks as though there is a circlip intact
at each end of the shaft. An unbroken shaft with circlips in place will
not pull out.



 
On or around Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:57:50 +0000, Dougal
<DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>>> Bearing lock finger bend shouldn't make any difference
>
>That's allowed.
>
>> You may be right about the broken shaft. I can pull the exposed end out
>> until it touches the crown wheel (correct name?).
>
>It's broken. In the photo it looks as though there is a circlip intact
>at each end of the shaft. An unbroken shaft with circlips in place will
>not pull out.

that's what I was just thinking. Just been looking in the disco book, 's
not meant to be like that. Must be broken inside one of the gears though,
since the middle bit looks sound.

If nothing else is broken, and you can get a shaft, then it can be repaired,
certainly enough to be a spare.

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a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
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Dougal wrote:
>
>
> Another bloody site that's 'optimised' for IE !
>

Oh. I can view them OK with Netscrape. What browser are you using Dougal?

Rgds Richard


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Austin Shackles wrote:

>
>
> that's what I was just thinking. Just been looking in the disco book, 's
> not meant to be like that. Must be broken inside one of the gears though,
> since the middle bit looks sound.
>
> If nothing else is broken, and you can get a shaft, then it can be repaired,
> certainly enough to be a spare.
>

Hi Austin

I've had another look at the parts book and service manual. I'm sure it
could be repaired!

Removing the Cross Shaft (it's part 599945) is step 15 of 17 in the
dismantling sequence - basically a complete strip down.

When I was exploring the options I asked Rover what their exchange price
was. When I had finished laughing I asked about a rebuild cost for my
diff. When they had finished laughing they said it would be more than
their exhange price of £400~ + VAT.

So, not knowing what I would find when I removed the diff and being
totally disinclined to work on it myself - ignoring first time
inexperience, I took the easy option and bought a recon unit from
Autopost. The old one also has a lot of rattles in each gear.


But what about a posible cause of the breakage?

If I have the time (and inclination) I may dismantle it to see exactly
where the break is.

Rgds Richard


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On or around Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:41:01 +0000, Richard <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Dougal wrote:
>>
>>
>> Another bloody site that's 'optimised' for IE !
>>
>
>Oh. I can view them OK with Netscrape. What browser are you using Dougal?
>
>Rgds Richard

work in Mozilla, too, and since the shedde are invited to view someone
else's fotopic-space on a regular basis, I think we'd have heard if there
were serious problems with other browsers.
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as little trust as you can in tomorrow) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Odes, I.xi.8
 
>> Another bloody site that's 'optimised' for IE !
>>
>
> Oh. I can view them OK with Netscrape. What browser are you using Dougal?
>
> Rgds Richard


Netscape (7.1)! Perhaps I've got too much closed down in an attempt to
keep the nasties out.

I could see the file name and image size in text form, but no image. IE
showed the image.

As you might have guessed this is a general gripe about sites that have
rather too many IE-specific features and there are lots of them around.


 
On or around Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:41:18 +0000, Dougal
<DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>>> Another bloody site that's 'optimised' for IE !
>>>
>>
>> Oh. I can view them OK with Netscrape. What browser are you using Dougal?
>>
>> Rgds Richard
>
>
>Netscape (7.1)! Perhaps I've got too much closed down in an attempt to
>keep the nasties out.
>
>I could see the file name and image size in text form, but no image. IE
>showed the image.
>
>As you might have guessed this is a general gripe about sites that have
>rather too many IE-specific features and there are lots of them around.

I gave up on netscape a while back, when their encryption (or lack of)
fought with the bank's website. Mozilla works just as well, IME. In fact,
firefox is getting good an' all; and you can get it to work with different
user profiles, despite that it doesn't say so or do so by default.

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Agricola, 30
 
Austin Shackles wrote:

>
>>>>
> I gave up on netscape a while back, when their encryption (or lack of)
> fought with the bank's website. Mozilla works just as well, IME. In fact,
> firefox is getting good an' all; and you can get it to work with different
> user profiles, despite that it doesn't say so or do so by default.
>

'tis Netscape 7.2 that I use. might give Mozilla a go tho.

If I can use an alternave to MS I will!

Rgds Richard

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