Things that never make the news...

hugh wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>, Mother <"@
> {mother} @"@101fc.net> writes
>>On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:25:21 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Now compare that to tuning the radio, finding a cassette/CD, picking
>>>out your favourite colour Jelly Baby, talking to a passenger etc
>>>and things will be in perspective - it's in-car entertainment that
>>>should be banned - and non-signle colour Jelly Babies;-)
>>
>>Nothing, and I mean NOTHING compares to having a couple of screaming
>>kids in the back...
>>
>>
> A f****** barking dog!!!

Two barking dogs...
(Any advance on two?)
JD

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:51:46 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> I led a training day recently where I produced a 6 cell Maglite. I asked
>> whether this could be accepted as an offwep.
>
>And the answer was... what?

"They" made it very complicated - which is pretty much why I decided
to spin it that way in the training (I love new intakes!).
The answer was simple: "no", and really should not have taken longer
than 2 minutes to reach that decision.

In a different environment, with (proven) different motives however,
it could easily be...

....'yes'.



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of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:35:38 +0100, Tom Woods wrote:

> The car makers should just fit cars with a drawer with an optional
> ash tray insert. That would keep everybody happy!

Thats not a bad idea and would work in the Disco II already the coin
drawer and ash tray are inter changeable either side of the front
drinks holder.

You still need the availabilty of plugin 12v power though but they
could use that as an excuse to provide a decent power socket and
connector. You never know one designed for the job of providing power,
reliably.

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Dave Liquorice wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:35:38 +0100, Tom Woods wrote:
>
>> The car makers should just fit cars with a drawer with an optional
>> ash tray insert. That would keep everybody happy!
>
> Thats not a bad idea and would work in the Disco II already the coin
> drawer and ash tray are inter changeable either side of the front
> drinks holder.
>
> You still need the availabilty of plugin 12v power though but they
> could use that as an excuse to provide a decent power socket and
> connector. You never know one designed for the job of providing power,
> reliably.

Another VW problem, they are perm live. Very irritating

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On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 22:03:27 +0100, Mother wrote:

>>> I led a training day recently where I produced a 6 cell Maglite.
>>> I asked whether this could be accepted as an offwep.
>>
>> And the answer was... what?
>
> "They" made it very complicated - which is pretty much why I decided
> to spin it that way in the training (I love new intakes!).
> The answer was simple: "no", and really should not have taken longer
> than 2 minutes to reach that decision.

Good, this is sort of what I hang possesing a 6 D cell Maglite on. If
I hear a noise outside, at night, and go out to investigate it is
perferctly "reasonable" to take a torch. The fact that it quite long,
heavy and rigid is not relevant...

> In a different environment, with (proven) different motives however,
> it could easily be...
>
> ....'yes'.

Quite, taking it out in daylight after hearing a noise would be a
different matter.

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in article [email protected], Mother at "@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net wrote on 30/9/05 5:30 pm:

> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:25:21 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Now compare that to tuning the radio, finding a cassette/CD, picking
>> out your favourite colour Jelly Baby, talking to a passenger etc
>> and things will be in perspective - it's in-car entertainment that
>> should be banned - and non-signle colour Jelly Babies;-)
>
> Nothing, and I mean NOTHING compares to having a couple of screaming
> kids in the back...
>

I can honestly say two is nothing compared to four.
--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair

in article [email protected], Mother at "@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net wrote on 30/9/05 7:36 pm:

> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:12:04 +0100, "Dadio" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, its ok to drive while lighting a cigarette and then have one hand on
>> the wheel while smoking it (taking in a quite powerful drug), and what about
>> when the red hot end falls off into your lap......
>
> I blame the nanny state and totally inadequate driving instructors who
> fail to teach you how to roll a spliff in your lap whilst changing the
> cassette, finding the toy yer kid has just thrown under the brake
> pedal and finishing off yer internet order with Tesco...

Should try making a couple before you go out.
>
> Mind, avoiding the red hot bit falling into yer lap is equally
> important. Last time that happened I had to slam the brakes on really
> hard, causing me to spill my pint over the crossword I'd nearly
> finished...
>

--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair

in article [email protected], JD at [email protected] wrote on
30/9/05 10:00 pm:

> hugh wrote:
>
>> In message <[email protected]>, Mother <"@
>> {mother} @"@101fc.net> writes
>>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:25:21 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now compare that to tuning the radio, finding a cassette/CD, picking
>>>> out your favourite colour Jelly Baby, talking to a passenger etc
>>>> and things will be in perspective - it's in-car entertainment that
>>>> should be banned - and non-signle colour Jelly Babies;-)
>>>
>>> Nothing, and I mean NOTHING compares to having a couple of screaming
>>> kids in the back...
>>>
>>>
>> A f****** barking dog!!!
>
> Two barking dogs...
> (Any advance on two?)
> JD
plus four kids?
--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair

In news:[email protected],
Mother" <"@ {mother} @ <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> typed:
| On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:25:21 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
| <[email protected]> wrote:
|
|| Now compare that to tuning the radio, finding a cassette/CD, picking
|| out your favourite colour Jelly Baby, talking to a passenger etc
|| and things will be in perspective - it's in-car entertainment that
|| should be banned - and non-signle colour Jelly Babies;-)
|
| Nothing, and I mean NOTHING compares to having a couple of screaming
| kids in the back...
|
|
| --
| "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
| of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
| increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
| In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

I must disagree. A couple of two year old German Shepherd pups fighting in
the back is a pretty good distraction. The fur really does fly!!!

Karen


--
"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast

How about a rush hour load of 80+ people, 90% of them unwashed and stinking
to high heaven, at least 2 screaming kids, a dozen one sided phone calls,
and at least 20 "personal" stereos,
And don't even get me started on the joys of the "school special"
And people wonder why bus drivers are not generally happy people

......................Smurf

>>
>>bus drivers are not kept in locked cabinets
>>at the depot ready for the next morning
>>work.
>>

Tho if your shift patterns are anything like ours , it does does seem like
it.

O.T. why can wagon drivers only drive for 4.5 hours without a break, but
bus drivers can drive for 5.5 ???

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:07:35 +0100, in article
<[email protected]> [email protected]
"Richard Brookman" wrote:

> so Mother" <"@ {mother} @ was, like...
> > On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:29:40 +0100 (BST), [email protected]
> > ("David G. Bell") wrote:
> >
> >> Theres some sort of lawful reason clause that would cover that, just
> >> as there is for agricultural tools. The "bill", which developed into
> >> a weapon that could deal with a man in armour, is also an effective
> >> tool for working on hedges. Which means its also good for the
> >> environment.
> >
> > Ahem, may I direct the learned folk toward uk.legal.moderated ?
> >
> > OffWep / tool ? If you aint got a good cause for havin' it, you'll
> > get a sharp awakening in a certain Sheffield Court...
>
> Does that mean that the machete that I carry in the S2a (for "gardening" on
> a lane - and very well hidden from casual observers) should not be there?
> Serious question.

This is definitely where you need proper advice, but I wouldn't be
surprised if a locked toolbox would be recommended.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"I am Number Two," said Penfold. "You are Number Six."

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:26:54 +0100, in article
<[email protected]> hugh@[127.0.0.1]
"hugh" wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>, Mother <"@
> {mother} @"@101fc.net> writes
> >On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:25:21 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Now compare that to tuning the radio, finding a cassette/CD, picking
> >>out your favourite colour Jelly Baby, talking to a passenger etc
> >>and things will be in perspective - it's in-car entertainment that
> >>should be banned - and non-signle colour Jelly Babies;-)
> >
> >Nothing, and I mean NOTHING compares to having a couple of screaming
> >kids in the back...
> >
> >
> A f****** barking dog!!!

Aural sex?

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"I am Number Two," said Penfold. "You are Number Six."

On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 07:43:36 +0100, "Smurf" <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>
>>>bus drivers are not kept in locked cabinets
>>>at the depot ready for the next morning
>>>work.
>>>
>
>Tho if your shift patterns are anything like ours , it does does seem like
>it.
>
>O.T. why can wagon drivers only drive for 4.5 hours without a break, but
>bus drivers can drive for 5.5 ???
>

Because the bus industry toadyed up to the government and got an
opt-out from the EU Tacho regs for local runs. Routes over 30km have
to comply with EU driving regs anyway tho.

Alex

On or around Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:23:25 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:07:35 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Does that mean that the machete that I carry in the S2a (for "gardening" on
>>a lane - and very well hidden from casual observers) should not be there?
>>Serious question.
>
>Provided you can demonstrate a legitimate use for it, you have very
>little to worry about. Unless of course, you use it for any
>'different' purpose which cannot reasonably be claimed as self defence
>in a 'situation'. A carpet fitter once got off with using a Stanley
>knife during a fight - as he'd claimed he used it for work (I, it has
>to be said, would not necessarily have agreed with that decision).

probably every carpet fitter has a stanley knife... and if he was attacked
while holding it, well, I would too, I reckon.

>The same 6 cell Maglite I'd used some 8 odd years ago to 'defend'
>myself against a couple of 'burglars' (I believed them to be burglars,
>as they were in my back garden trying to force a window). I asked
>whether this could be accepted as an offwep.

I thought that was why the transpondian dibbles were issued with same?
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On or around Sat, 1 Oct 2005 07:43:36 +0100, "Smurf" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>>>
>>>bus drivers are not kept in locked cabinets
>>>at the depot ready for the next morning
>>>work.
>>>
>
>Tho if your shift patterns are anything like ours , it does does seem like
>it.
>
>O.T. why can wagon drivers only drive for 4.5 hours without a break, but
>bus drivers can drive for 5.5 ???
>

if they're running on tachos (such as tour coaches), I suspect you're wrong.
However, scheduled service buses don't have to have tachos. Do they use the
old "british" hours?
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Appearances: You don't really need make-up. Celebrate your authentic
face by frightening people in the street.
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:35:39 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>probably every carpet fitter has a stanley knife... and if he was attacked
>while holding it, well, I would too, I reckon.

Perhaps, as a means of defence, but not during a 'fight' between two
existing adversaries.


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"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

On or around Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:46:49 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:35:39 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>probably every carpet fitter has a stanley knife... and if he was attacked
>>while holding it, well, I would too, I reckon.
>
>Perhaps, as a means of defence, but not during a 'fight' between two
>existing adversaries.

ah, no. not in that case.
--
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"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk." Pink Floyd (1994)

In message <BF638807.2FEE%[email protected]>, Nikki
<[email protected]> writes
>in article [email protected], JD at [email protected] wrote on
>30/9/05 10:00 pm:
>
>> hugh wrote:
>>
>>> In message <[email protected]>, Mother <"@
>>> {mother} @"@101fc.net> writes
>>>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:25:21 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Now compare that to tuning the radio, finding a cassette/CD, picking
>>>>> out your favourite colour Jelly Baby, talking to a passenger etc
>>>>> and things will be in perspective - it's in-car entertainment that
>>>>> should be banned - and non-signle colour Jelly Babies;-)
>>>>
>>>> Nothing, and I mean NOTHING compares to having a couple of screaming
>>>> kids in the back...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A f****** barking dog!!!
>>
>> Two barking dogs...
>> (Any advance on two?)
>> JD
>plus four kids?
Give in, you win.
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In message <[email protected]>, steve Taylor
<[email protected]> writes
>hugh wrote:
>
>> A f****** barking dog!!!
>
>On its own ? On the back seat or the roofrack ?
>
>Steve
That's a good idea!!
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