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fanie

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Hi All

After my second low coolant related TDI blowup in six months, I am getting
the widget below (hopefully today) to help give me some early warning.

http://www.hewittindustries.com/multi.htm

I gather Tdi's are not as prone to blowing up in other markets as they are
here in SA, but this may still be of interest to some, so if anyone want's
to know how it went, I can keep the group posted.

Regards
Stephen


 
Hi Stephen

I have one fitted to my TDi 110 after the water reservoir went south. There
are a few chaps that fit them. Make sure that you go to a good mechanic,
there are a lot of poephols about.

SS

"fanie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]...
> Hi All
>
> After my second low coolant related TDI blowup in six months, I am
> getting the widget below (hopefully today) to help give me some early
> warning.
>
> http://www.hewittindustries.com/multi.htm
>
> I gather Tdi's are not as prone to blowing up in other markets as they are
> here in SA, but this may still be of interest to some, so if anyone want's
> to know how it went, I can keep the group posted.
>
> Regards
> Stephen
>


 
I am having this problem as we speak.
LR Cape Town puts the price tag anywhere between 18.000 and 45.000 Rand. I
could scream.
Uli


 
And to think that it could be avoided by having a simple low coolant level
sensor that would probably cost a few rand to have installed at the factory.
If they can do it on a golf 1 why can't LR get it right???

Regards
Fanie


 
You are being ripped off, it can be done for much less. TDi head etc & LBB
fitted cost me R4800!! And there engineering work required on the head.

SS


"Uli" <uliatiafrica.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am having this problem as we speak.
> LR Cape Town puts the price tag anywhere between 18.000 and 45.000 Rand. I
> could scream.
> Uli
>


 
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:

> A low coolant mod....
>
>
http://www.overland.co.za/Land_Rover/Warning_Systems/Johan_Strumpfer/warning_circuit.html
>
> Neil

A comprehensive and _excellent_ contribution, Neil. I'll pursue this
with my Defender TDi300 sometime 'down the track'.

Having had the lower radiator hose rupture on another vehicle ( which
resulted in a cracked head) I've thought about a 'quicker' safeguard many
times. I'd thought about a 'coolant pressure sensor' !!!...... But your
solution is fine.

Thank you.

.... frodo.
 
btw, Johan S now has a Brazilian 2.8 TDi fitted to his vehicle. I test drove
it in Dec while there on holiday. It performs really well.
WARNING: The black reservoir shown in Johan's report is part of the TDi's
problem. These are prone to failure. Bottle pops - no coolant - you notice
something is wrong - look at the gauges - temp all the way in the red - big
buck to fix:-(
That's what happened to my TDi last year.

If you have a black reservoir - change it now!



"Neil Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A low coolant mod....
>
> http://www.overland.co.za/Land_Rover/Warning_Systems/Johan_Strumpfer/warning_circuit.html
>
> Neil


 
On or around Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:16:03 +0200, "Landynut"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>btw, Johan S now has a Brazilian 2.8 TDi fitted to his vehicle. I test drove
>it in Dec while there on holiday. It performs really well.
>WARNING: The black reservoir shown in Johan's report is part of the TDi's
>problem. These are prone to failure. Bottle pops - no coolant - you notice
>something is wrong - look at the gauges - temp all the way in the red - big
>buck to fix:-(
>That's what happened to my TDi last year.
>
>If you have a black reservoir - change it now!

we had one of those split. 's got a replacement white one now. Mind, the
coolant tank is AFAICS common to all the disco Is at least.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
If all be true that I do think, There are five reasons we should drink;
Good wine, a friend, or being dry, Or lest we should be by and by;
Or any other reason why. - Henry Aldrich (1647 - 1710)
 
frodo wrote:

> times. I'd thought about a 'coolant pressure sensor' !!!...... But your
> solution is fine.

Not my design, just passing on the info, I will probably fit something like
this myself to my Discovery. There was some other engine protection &
warning solutions on another site - I will post the links if I locate it.
Cheers.

Neil
 
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>If you have a black reservoir - change it now!
>
> we had one of those split. 's got a replacement white one now. Mind, the
> coolant tank is AFAICS common to all the disco Is at least.

And the 1990 Rangie VM TD...... if you install the level sensing cap then if
it does pop you should get to know about it anyway. If it's not broken don't
fix it. Wonder if its a heat issue as it doesn't seem to be a problem here
in the UK.

Can't believe Landrover skimped on installing them for the Defenders, talk
about penny pinching.

I note that the Jaguar radiator I fitted to my SIIa actually has an inbuilt
water level sensor. The more the better as they are known to fail in
themselves (Though my failure experience was with a Ford (Ford - Ford not
Ford Landrover ;0) ) not a landrover)

Lee D

--

www.lrproject.com

Workshop photos from Landrover repairs
& other such tinkerings.
Home of Percy the Jag powered Landrover


--

www.lrproject.com

Workshop photos from Landrover repairs
& other such tinkerings.
Home of Percy the Jag powered Landrover


 
On or around Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:07:10 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>>If you have a black reservoir - change it now!
>>
>> we had one of those split. 's got a replacement white one now. Mind, the
>> coolant tank is AFAICS common to all the disco Is at least.
>
>And the 1990 Rangie VM TD...... if you install the level sensing cap then if
>it does pop you should get to know about it anyway. If it's not broken don't
>fix it. Wonder if its a heat issue as it doesn't seem to be a problem here
>in the UK.
>
>Can't believe Landrover skimped on installing them for the Defenders, talk
>about penny pinching.

The discos don't have 'em either.

Where else do you think I should look for slow water loss on a 300 TDi?

there's nothing obvious - the header tank has been replaced, and it recently
had a new cylinder head, and also more recently a new water pump and gasket
and a new "P" gasket.

Still loses a litre or so of water every day or so. Not obviously making
white smoke when cold (which might indicate a head gasket), no water in the
oil, no steam from the heater, no wet carpets...


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria"
- Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321) from Divina Commedia 'Inferno'
 
> Still loses a litre or so of water every day or so. Not obviously making
> white smoke when cold (which might indicate a head gasket), no water in
> the
> oil, no steam from the heater, no wet carpets...

I had exactly the same situation with my 110 TD5 ever since I bought it last
August.
One morning I topped up with the usual 1.5 litres, a few hours later the
head gasket blew.


 
On or around Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:47:47 +0200, "Uli" <uliatiafrica.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>> Still loses a litre or so of water every day or so. Not obviously making
>> white smoke when cold (which might indicate a head gasket), no water in
>> the
>> oil, no steam from the heater, no wet carpets...
>
>I had exactly the same situation with my 110 TD5 ever since I bought it last
>August.
>One morning I topped up with the usual 1.5 litres, a few hours later the
>head gasket blew.
>

I'll be bloody annoyed if it's the gasket - it recently had a new head and
gasket fitted.

I guess it's the most likely option, having done most everything else.

bugger.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25
 
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:

> > warning solutions on another site - I will post the links if I locate it.
>
> A couole of links from Roman Gozdzikowskis' brilliant site - this is what my
> Discovery aspires to !!
>
> http://www.adgy62.dsl.pipex.com/_landrover_/engine_protection.htm
> http://www.adgy62.dsl.pipex.com/_landrover_/halogen_protection.htm
>
> Cheers.
>
> Neil

Such excellent stuff !!! Thanks Neil. ( I haven't the 'bickies' to do
anywhere near as much, but there're some _great_ ideas to pursue !)

.... frodo.
 
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]...
> I'll be bloody annoyed if it's the gasket - it recently had a new head and
> gasket fitted.
>
> I guess it's the most likely option, having done most everything else.
>
> bugger.

When we had our Air con recharged the chap who did it had a IR lamp or Black
light lamp ala gone in sixty seconds. He used it to check for the green
stuff escaping.

Wonder if it would work on coolant???

Besides that...he should have stuck around 24 hours as the next morning
there was a puddle on the drive....grrrrr!!!

Lee D
--

www.lrproject.com

Workshop photos from Landrover repairs
& other such tinkerings.
Home of Percy the Jag powered Landrover


 
On or around Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:37:12 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:p[email protected]...
>> I'll be bloody annoyed if it's the gasket - it recently had a new head and
>> gasket fitted.
>>
>> I guess it's the most likely option, having done most everything else.
>>
>> bugger.
>
>When we had our Air con recharged the chap who did it had a IR lamp or Black
>light lamp ala gone in sixty seconds. He used it to check for the green
>stuff escaping.

it's UV, AFAIK, the aircon fluid has something in it that fluoresces.
>
>Wonder if it would work on coolant???

only if the coolant was fluorescent too


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Something there is that doesn't love a wall."
Robert Frost (1874-1963)
 
On or around Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:08 +0100 (BST),
[email protected] (Niamh Holding) enlightened us thusly:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] (Austin Shackles) wrote:
>
>> Where else do you think I should look for slow water loss on a 300 TDi?
>
>Do a static pressure test. We do one a a matter of routine after working
>on the coolant system

Good idea. Mind, I can't see water escaping under pressure when it's
running...

I was wondering recently if it was down on power a bit - which might or
might not indicate a head gasket problem.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent.
I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)
 
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