td5 isnt liking the cold

adseybear · Dec 16, 2009

Went to start her up this morning, and juddered into life, idled roughly for 5 secs then died

Tried turning over for about 20secs and then she fired up, with a cloud of smoke.

Left it idling for a few minutes while i threw some things in the back, enough time i thought for her to warm up a little.
Pulled out the drive, with more smoke coming out than a power station, barely had enough power to reach 2nd gear. Limped to a downhill bit where it wasnt so bad. It slowly got better with more power, and less smoke the warmer it got

Once pretty much warmed up, no smoke and full power.
Anyone got any ideas? Been driving it all day, and no problems starting even after being left for hours, but a bit of smoke when cold. Im guessing i'll have the same problem tommorow when she's stone cold after being left overnight.

nathan5346 · Dec 16, 2009

whens the last you seviced it? filters ect

adseybear · Dec 16, 2009

all new filters, and all oils changed 4000 miles ago.

Was absolutely fine yesterday, clutch master cylinder changed yesterday afternoon.

adseybear · Dec 16, 2009

forgot to add, the smoke was thick, black and I cant see the car behind type of smoke

Sean · Dec 16, 2009

glow plugs, all 4 of them

B3aker · Dec 20, 2009

I've had the same problem, Its only since its got cold.

Refuses to start, after the coil light comes on, take 5 or 6 attempts to get it to start. When it starts it ticks over ok, but if you try giving it a little throttle it judders and chucks out greyish smoke, sounds as though its only running on 4 cylinders. After about 5 mins of it just idling it runs just fine. Is it just the 5th cylinder being too cold to fire properly?

adseybear · Jan 5, 2010

B3aker said:
I've had the same problem, Its only since its got cold.

Refuses to start, after the coil light comes on, take 5 or 6 attempts to get it to start. When it starts it ticks over ok, but if you try giving it a little throttle it judders and chucks out greyish smoke, sounds as though its only running on 4 cylinders. After about 5 mins of it just idling it runs just fine. Is it just the 5th cylinder being too cold to fire properly?

Unlike mine, does yours drive fine?

And from experience, they should only idle a little roughly for less than a minute, before theres enough heat for it to idle fine.

Maybe your glow plugs need replacing?

adseybear · Jan 5, 2010

Ok, im getting quite annoyed at this now

Yesterday started up great, no judder, no coughing, perfect....

Pulled out the driveway, accelerated hit about 1200 rpm in first and just went dead. No power whatsoever, smoked thick black smoke, and juddered and misfired.

Managed to limp down the road and 10mph, and let all the cars coughing and spluttering behind me past. Then carried on, it took 2 miles for it to clear up, as it climbed out of the blue on the temp guage, no smoke and full power was restored...

On light throttle openings it seemed to be ok, but as soon as you asked it to pull, even the lightest touch in 2nd gear, it just seemed to overfuel itself and chuck out clouds of black smoke with no power, and misfiring all over the place.

This is now becoming a bit of a regular occurence in the cold.

I know its not glow plugs as it will start fine, and will idle fine.

B3aker · Jan 5, 2010

adseybear said:
Unlike mine, does yours drive fine?

And from experience, they should only idle a little roughly for less than a minute, before theres enough heat for it to idle fine.

Maybe your glow plugs need replacing?

The glow plugs are on the list of things to do, as well as a new injector loom.

Tig9619 · Jan 6, 2010

our td5 at work does the same thing when cold. we just leave a brick on the throttle for 5 mins and its fine when its warmed up! I've heard lots that they dont like the cold. perhaps they should have fitted 5 glow plugs?

adseybear · Jan 6, 2010

but what I dont understand, is that it can be -2 etc. and start absolutely fine, no smoke etc.

yet under similar conditions the next day, can be a bitch to start, clouds of smoke, and no power.

Was quite dangerous pulling out yesterday cos we live on a 50mph road, then to find she didnt want to accelerate past 5 mph.

ratty · Jan 7, 2010

adseybear said:
but what I dont understand, is that it can be -2 etc. and start absolutely fine, no smoke etc.

yet under similar conditions the next day, can be a bitch to start, clouds of smoke, and no power.

Was quite dangerous pulling out yesterday cos we live on a 50mph road, then to find she didnt want to accelerate past 5 mph.

Sounds like you could have an intermittent injector fault that sometimes allows one of your injectors to remain open.

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