Gunter Shingleditch
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Hello Guys,
Quick one. Please can someone confirm before I spend £1000 on new injectors on Wednesday.
2004 FL1 TD4 with 135K Manual.
Runs sweet but STINKS of exhaust and on cold engine if kept at 1000 revs will misfire slightly and smokes white/grey/blueish smoke. Feels nice and quick, decent MPG but stinks when idling and if one would open the back window whilst driving it is horrid - sulphur stink - really bad. It also puffs white/grey/blueish smoke on start-ups and will leave a trail of white/grey/blueish smoke when accelerating hard when cold - I doubt its steam as it trails 2-3 car lengths behind me on the ground. Confirmed no white/grey/blueish smoke when accelerating hard with engine warm. Idles decently when cold but absolutely fine when hot. Also when holding revs at 1000 when hot you can still feel sliiiight lump but no smoke just SMELL!
Car had loads of money spent on it as I love it. This is the last thing to make it the most sorted FL1 in the UK
)) Engine wise in the last year:
- new boost hoses
- looks like new vacuum lines by the last guy
- new glow plugs
- manifold and MAP clean and new seals
- egr blanked before my ownership
- new spill hoses and brass plugs
- bmw crankcase mod when first got it
- new bosch maf
- new IAT
- low pressure FP is silent - doesn't whine like on my last FL I also didn't change the fuel filter - will ask garage to do this first on Wednesday.
I am running Millers eco max since I got it last year. It had a ron box on when I got it but I took it off as don't need the power and was trying to diagnose the stink. Stinks less without the ron box. Once ron box was off I got maf errors so got new maf. Run great with no maf BTW but still stunk. New maf and adaptations reset and it felt fine (still stinky though) until sub zero temps hit the South East where there was dangerously no power below 2k when cold and just bare minimum power when heated up. Now that the temp is back to 10/11 degrees outside it drives fine again but stinks.
My Icarsoft LR 1.0 must be fake or broken because it only shows fuelling comp and roughness once every so often I have to click REC button on and off again and it will do a cycle of data once every blue moon. Can you guys have a look at this and confirm if £500+ quid of recon Lucas injectors + labour is the right path?
I get a code 1613 Cylinder balance control - I assume the injectors are out or range of the ECU's capability to adjust or compensate?
This is data on warm engine after 20 minute drive @ 50/60mph:
Low Pressure Supply ----- 346.5 - that sometimes goes N/A on the scanner - only noticed that when reviewing data on PC
Airflow ----- 405.3mg/str
Coolant Temperature ----- 82.85°C - no too cold? I had my heating on
Engine Speed ----- 762rpm
Fuel Pressure Regulator Current ----- 0.69
High Pressure Rail ----- 28658.84kPa
Inlet Air Temperature ----- 15.55°C
Manifold Pressure ----- 101.9kPa
Pedal 1 Demand ----- 0.74%
Pedal 2 Demand ----- 0.37%
Battery Voltage ----- 14.19V
Capacitor 1 ----- 76.76V
Sensor Supply 1 ----- 4.99V
Sensor Supply 2 ----- 4.99V
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Frame 94/225: - I only managed to get a handful of frames and used excel to get the data
Cylinder 1 ----- 16.98 this was anywhere from -1.9 to 16.98
Cylinder 2 ----- 12.88 this was anywhere from 7.88 to 12.88
Cylinder 3 ----- 20.69 this was anywhere from 20.39 to 20.69
Cylinder 4 ----- 11.52 this was anywhere from 11.52 to 13.52
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What you reckon - go for the injectors? Did the ron box do a number on them or maybe just worn? I reckon the car was like that since I had it but it didn't bother me before - I always just associated the stink with the ron box boosting the power etc. I was hoping that when I get rid of the box it will go back to being not stinky but it only reduced the stink didn't get rid of it. People roll their windows up and give me evils on the road in traffic. I followed an old defender one day last week and it stunk like mine - nothing pleasant - had to put my recirc on!
Please help.
Thanks!
Quick one. Please can someone confirm before I spend £1000 on new injectors on Wednesday.
2004 FL1 TD4 with 135K Manual.
Runs sweet but STINKS of exhaust and on cold engine if kept at 1000 revs will misfire slightly and smokes white/grey/blueish smoke. Feels nice and quick, decent MPG but stinks when idling and if one would open the back window whilst driving it is horrid - sulphur stink - really bad. It also puffs white/grey/blueish smoke on start-ups and will leave a trail of white/grey/blueish smoke when accelerating hard when cold - I doubt its steam as it trails 2-3 car lengths behind me on the ground. Confirmed no white/grey/blueish smoke when accelerating hard with engine warm. Idles decently when cold but absolutely fine when hot. Also when holding revs at 1000 when hot you can still feel sliiiight lump but no smoke just SMELL!
Car had loads of money spent on it as I love it. This is the last thing to make it the most sorted FL1 in the UK
)) Engine wise in the last year:- new boost hoses
- looks like new vacuum lines by the last guy
- new glow plugs
- manifold and MAP clean and new seals
- egr blanked before my ownership
- new spill hoses and brass plugs
- bmw crankcase mod when first got it
- new bosch maf
- new IAT
- low pressure FP is silent - doesn't whine like on my last FL I also didn't change the fuel filter - will ask garage to do this first on Wednesday.
I am running Millers eco max since I got it last year. It had a ron box on when I got it but I took it off as don't need the power and was trying to diagnose the stink. Stinks less without the ron box. Once ron box was off I got maf errors so got new maf. Run great with no maf BTW but still stunk. New maf and adaptations reset and it felt fine (still stinky though) until sub zero temps hit the South East where there was dangerously no power below 2k when cold and just bare minimum power when heated up. Now that the temp is back to 10/11 degrees outside it drives fine again but stinks.
My Icarsoft LR 1.0 must be fake or broken because it only shows fuelling comp and roughness once every so often I have to click REC button on and off again and it will do a cycle of data once every blue moon. Can you guys have a look at this and confirm if £500+ quid of recon Lucas injectors + labour is the right path?
I get a code 1613 Cylinder balance control - I assume the injectors are out or range of the ECU's capability to adjust or compensate?
This is data on warm engine after 20 minute drive @ 50/60mph:
Low Pressure Supply ----- 346.5 - that sometimes goes N/A on the scanner - only noticed that when reviewing data on PC
Airflow ----- 405.3mg/str
Coolant Temperature ----- 82.85°C - no too cold? I had my heating on
Engine Speed ----- 762rpm
Fuel Pressure Regulator Current ----- 0.69
High Pressure Rail ----- 28658.84kPa
Inlet Air Temperature ----- 15.55°C
Manifold Pressure ----- 101.9kPa
Pedal 1 Demand ----- 0.74%
Pedal 2 Demand ----- 0.37%
Battery Voltage ----- 14.19V
Capacitor 1 ----- 76.76V
Sensor Supply 1 ----- 4.99V
Sensor Supply 2 ----- 4.99V
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Frame 94/225: - I only managed to get a handful of frames and used excel to get the data
Cylinder 1 ----- 16.98 this was anywhere from -1.9 to 16.98
Cylinder 2 ----- 12.88 this was anywhere from 7.88 to 12.88
Cylinder 3 ----- 20.69 this was anywhere from 20.39 to 20.69
Cylinder 4 ----- 11.52 this was anywhere from 11.52 to 13.52
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
What you reckon - go for the injectors? Did the ron box do a number on them or maybe just worn? I reckon the car was like that since I had it but it didn't bother me before - I always just associated the stink with the ron box boosting the power etc. I was hoping that when I get rid of the box it will go back to being not stinky but it only reduced the stink didn't get rid of it. People roll their windows up and give me evils on the road in traffic. I followed an old defender one day last week and it stunk like mine - nothing pleasant - had to put my recirc on!
Please help.
Thanks!
