TD4 cut out and won't restart

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tonyblack

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Hopefully someone may be able to shed some light on a problem I have with my 2001 TD4 automatic.

One day last week I noticed that the car took longer than usual to start. I had to turn it over for 4-5 seconds before it fired. Usually it is immediate. Then, after about 10 minutes of driving, as I was passing through the center of Malvern the Freelander sudenly cut out, leaving me stranded in the middle of a crossroads.

I called out the AA and their patrolman was stumped. According to him the fuel pump was working fine although when he measured the amperage across the fuel pump fuse he said it was much lower than it should be as if there was no fuel going through it. He was convinced that I was out of diesel even though the gauge was showing full and I knew that I had only recently filled it up. He convinced me to part with a fiver so that he could empty a five litre can of fuel into the tank. Of curse this made no difference. Eventually he gave up and recovered the car to my home.

If I disconnect the supply pipe to the left most injector (see red arrow in image 01) and switch on the ignition, no fuel is coming out of this pipe, though I can hear a gurgling sound from down this pipe as if fuel is trying to get through.

I can confirm that the fuel pump in the engine bay (under the fuse and relay box) is running and making a noise when the ignition is switched on and if I disconnect the pipe that runs from the fuel filter to the injectors (see arrow in image 02) and switch on the ignition I do get somewhat feeble spurts of fuel coming out (by no means a torrent).

When the ignition is switched on I am not hearing any sound from the rear fuel pump (though I have to admit that I have never noticed this previously).

My suspicion is that the rear (low pressure?) fuel pump has died. Can anyone else offer any advice?
Many thanks in advance.

Regards,
Tony Black
 

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Hopefully someone may be able to shed some light on a problem I have with my 2001 TD4 automatic.

One day last week I noticed that the car took longer than usual to start. I had to turn it over for 4-5 seconds before it fired. Usually it is immediate. Then, after about 10 minutes of driving, as I was passing through the center of Malvern the Freelander sudenly cut out, leaving me stranded in the middle of a crossroads.

I called out the AA and their patrolman was stumped. According to him the fuel pump was working fine although when he measured the amperage across the fuel pump fuse he said it was much lower than it should be as if there was no fuel going through it. He was convinced that I was out of diesel even though the gauge was showing full and I knew that I had only recently filled it up. He convinced me to part with a fiver so that he could empty a five litre can of fuel into the tank. Of curse this made no difference. Eventually he gave up and recovered the car to my home.

If I disconnect the supply pipe to the left most injector (see red arrow in image 01) and switch on the ignition, no fuel is coming out of this pipe, though I can hear a gurgling sound from down this pipe as if fuel is trying to get through.

I can confirm that the fuel pump in the engine bay (under the fuse and relay box) is running and making a noise when the ignition is switched on and if I disconnect the pipe that runs from the fuel filter to the injectors (see arrow in image 02) and switch on the ignition I do get somewhat feeble spurts of fuel coming out (by no means a torrent).

When the ignition is switched on I am not hearing any sound from the rear fuel pump (though I have to admit that I have never noticed this previously).

My suspicion is that the rear (low pressure?) fuel pump has died. Can anyone else offer any advice?
Many thanks in advance.

Regards,
Tony Black



I fink yuve hit it in one, rear fuel pump is shagged!! funny, its alwayz
the frunt one goes first!!;)
 
Update:
Wipped the rear sender/fuel pump out today. Was amazed that it had worked for as long as it has (132000 miles). The unit looked like it had been forced into place when the car was manufactured. The outer casing was warped and buckled where it had been incorrectly fitted. It is not surprising that I have always had a problem with the fuel gauge, it will read full for the first 200 miles after a fill up and then consequently very quickly drop to empty over the remaining millage on a tank of fuel.

With the pump out I applied 12v to the terminals on the pump and got no signs of life at all.

Does anyone know if the pump can be purchased seperately from the sender unit or is deamed to be a non-servicable item by Land Rover?
 
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With the pump out I applied 12v to the terminals on the pump and got no signs of life at all.

Does anyone know if the pump can be purchased seperately from the sender unit or is deamed to be a non-servicable item by Land Rover?

Apperently, Runnin these pumps without then being submerged in fuel has a nasty habit o buggrin em " very" sharpish ! cos they rely on the fuel fer cooling.

secondly! i searcher fer ages to see what was compatible and it seems a few of the big 5 and 6 series BMW's and big rovers use the same pump. but i never actually managed to source one due to the fact Bosch dint like givin info like that away too freely !
PS the cost of the pumps seperatly worked out cheaper £160 ish but presumin you got the correct pump first try it wernt work the ****on so ended up gettin a new complete unit from Jaguar | Land Rover spare parts at British Parts UK Phone em up wi yer vin No, and next day delivery without the balls ups ive had from the likes o padocks;)
 
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