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Yep I've seen this carlube stuff and would be my 2nd choice after n402 but strange how Carlube now don't list this spec on new bottles or even on there website
Freelander 1 td4 auto slamming into gears
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Does anyone have the official spec of the original n402 jatco auto oil? I've never been able to find it online. It traces back to texaco then to chevron but never found a datasheet or whatever they produce. Been reading about spec's on engine oil recently and would love to know similar about the Jatco stuff.
hi mate
i used this oil before in mine and was pleased with the results as i remember mine was thumping and in my case resolved the issue
don’t know if the spec may be of any use to u , if i remember right it changed to 506 from the N402
http://www.ravenolamerica.com/trans...ion-fluid-atf/atf-fluid-ravenol-jf506e-fluid/
RAVENOL JF506E ATF automatic transmission fluid fulfills the requirements for Jatco transmissions and can be used to replace the following:
- Ford WSS-M2C922-A1 for Durashift 5F31J
- Land Rover LRN402
- ATF Type 3100 PL085
- Land Rover STC53016
- Land Rover STC50531
- Jaguar C2S 12120
- ATF Type K17
- ATF N402
- VW G052990A2 for 09A and 09B 5-Speed Tiptronic
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fond memories of hippo ownership eh?
Thanks. I've seen that stuff before and know a number on ere who have used it. I was hoping for a content list of what's in n402. Like it's got eggstra chemical A to help reduce friction, chemical B to aid cleaning, chemical C to lock in dirt to stop it sticking etc (before it gets trapped int filter). I would also like to know what jatco spec as a must. For eggsample it must comply with these features/benefits to be suitable for the Jatco int FL1's: can run 100m in under 10 seconds and knows it's 11 times table... or whatever the manufacturer stipulates. Spent a number of hours reading about engine oil recently and it's quite an involved topic.
u need to get out more , lol
i think i may have seen that , will even try and find it for u
@Hippo , this was one of the sheets , it does specify n402 within the list
know texaco was the original oil for this
http://www.gulfoil.ie/lubricants/Product Data Sheets/Gulf Multi-Vehicle ATF.pdf
know texaco was the original oil for this
http://www.gulfoil.ie/lubricants/Product Data Sheets/Gulf Multi-Vehicle ATF.pdf
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That's the sort of thing I'm after. Will give me my Freelandering fix for today.
That's the sort of thing I'm after. Will give me my Freelandering fix for today.
do u want me to dig more to try and find more info or is that enough
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Keep going if yer like. I have to admit it's been a year since searching for this. You may put something in different to me and get different results.
just went through some of my old links and they arnt there any more
know when i searched , i tried things like n402 viscosity, as i was wanted to compare it with the alternative oils
also used millers in the jatco and that wasn’t bad either , but found the ravenol the smoothest on gear changes
don’t quote me but i think it came out 0-20w , but might be on the completely wrong track
plus just remembered, i’m sure i still have both jatco rebuild workshop books, bought them from a company in sussex who rebuild the jatco boxes and when mine was juddering i went down there and bought the manuals
will try and find them and see if there’s any more details in there for u
will try and find them and see if there’s any more details in there for u
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Thanks. I wonder if they're the same manwell's peep's have found in pdf format ont web recently. I will have a search again for the auto oil and see what I can find. But need some sleep first.
Thanks. I wonder if they're the same manwell's peep's have found in pdf format ont web recently. I will have a search again for the auto oil and see what I can find. But need some sleep first.
no worries, will dig them out in the week and can then easily take a pic of any info that may be useful
speak later
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Although ATF-U no longer shows as an N402 equivalent for the FL1 Jatco box. ATF-U still shows Esso LT 71141 and Ford Mercon V, both of which are suitable for the Jatco box when fitted to a Jaguar X type. So I'm more than happy to use ATF-U, knowing it well exceeds the original LR stuff.
i remember u had some really good results with that oil , when we discussed different oils a good while back
went down to a company in sussex who rebuilds the jatco gearbox and they also said exactly same as u with it being a suitable oil
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Fuchs 4400, Havoline Transmax, Castrol Multi vehicle, list as N402 equivalants too, but they are the same price if not more expensive than the landrover stuff.
Does anyone know if the freelander is the only 4x4 that used this Jatco box, all I can find is FWD vehicles.
Does anyone know if the freelander is the only 4x4 that used this Jatco box, all I can find is FWD vehicles.
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Yes. But the box is a FWD box, modified to take the IRD. So anything to do with the box is relevant, regardless of FWD 4WD.
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More load on a FWD box made to take 4 wheels offroad... more load on oil.
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The IRD is on the output of the box, so the actual torque the box taking is not much different from the FWD counterpart. The FL1 box has an IRD which lowers the torque seen by the boxes output shaft by ~30%.More load on a FWD box made to take 4 wheels offroad... more load on oil.
The Jatco 506E is designed to take 300Nm of engine torque, which is ample for the job in hand.
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