Does anybody have any experience of fitting a Tachograph to a 1996 P38 DSE or 2002 L322 4.4 (BMW) LPG. I am thinking of changing from my P38 to a petrol L322 LPG as its doing huge mileage towing for my used spares business and its border line to me if I need a tachograph. I cant seem to get any definitive word on the tacho situation. I see various used bits on eBay but not sure if I could fit myself before calibration etc done professionally.
Tachograph fitting
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I'm not an expert in law, tacho or commercial. However, my understanding is you only need a tacho if your gross train weight is greater than 3.5T, so depends on the gross weight of your trailer
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I'm no expert either, but I think that with 3.5 tonne trailer for commercial use a tacho might be needed in the EU.
The P38 is 2.25 tonnes unladen, the L322 is 2.5 tonnes, so the gross train weight car and trailer fully loaded could easily come to 6 tonnes plus in the case of the L322.
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Biggest headache with fitting tacho tends to be where to site the unit itself :
https://assets.publishing.service.g...9929/guide-to-acceptable-fitment-location.pdf
Other than that : Hire or reward = tacho
https://assets.publishing.service.g...9929/guide-to-acceptable-fitment-location.pdf
Other than that : Hire or reward = tacho
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+1 on what data said not sure but I think in the U.K. Aswell
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Depending on when you passed your test, your license may not cover you for over 3.5t anyway. You need a C1.
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Being an HGV driver, any vehicle being used for commercial purposes over 3.5t gross whether a van or van/trailer will require a tacho installed.
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https://www.optac.info/uk/trailer-tacho-rules-exemptions/
And don't forget if you are over 3.5t and have tacho. YOU COME UNDER driving hours regulations
And don't forget if you are over 3.5t and have tacho. YOU COME UNDER driving hours regulations
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isn't there an exemption if you drive a short period each day?
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You run into the hire or reward regs.
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Everywhere in the EU, in fact the B/BE car licence only covers up to a PTAC of 3.5 tonnes, that's car and trailer, to tow 3.5 tonnes with a P38/L322 you need C1E. I have to renew my C1/CE every year on account of my age but with the lock down I can't get to the designated doctor for the medical, I'm hoping I will be able to renew after expiry
There are a few exception like if you haul Sea Coal and other things like that, you have to look it up it's a minefield
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It's actually getting harder and harder to find 7.5t drivers. Most of my generation and older got it automatically when they passed the car test. That changed in the early 90s. Nowadays no-one takes a 7.5 test, they go straight to class 2, why wouldn't you?
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I had my 7.5 tonne licence as of right, but lost it due to age and not wanting to go back to the UK for a medical, I swapped it for a French licence which carried the C1/C1E over but I still have to have a medical, used to be every 2 years but is now every year on account of my age. I did drive 7.5 tonners as a contract driver for a while before I left for France.
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I started out in 7.5s, took my class 2 in my early 20s and my class 1 a couple of years later.
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Ah, a proper driver. I only played at truck driving, I drove an artic in my youth a couple of times when no special licence was needed, the the short spell to earn some cash before I emigrated.
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i only have C1E and not driven anything bigger than 3.5 in a long time. always fancied going bigger though
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It's always been my fallback. I got fed up of doing IT and went back to driving about 5 years ago. Haven't regretted that decision at all. Well, apart from the time I was sat on the M1 for six hours after some tw*t decided the best way to top himself was by stepping out in front of a 40 foot.
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have to say i dont fancy being in IT the rest of my life either
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It does have the odd advantage. Like on a November evening when it's sleeting down and you can't see a ****ing thing out the windscreen.
