Springs.

Would Series II leaf springs fit on a 1957 Series One?

Daisy , my 109 , has developed a bit of a list.

On 9 Jun 2006 12:41:00 -0700, "Rory" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Would Series II leaf springs fit on a 1957 Series One?
>
>Daisy , my 109 , has developed a bit of a list.

I'm working from what i've read and seen here not from experience, but
i thought that the series 1 had narrower springs than the later
series'es (and thus different mounts and stuff)?

On or around Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:10:07 +0100, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 9 Jun 2006 12:41:00 -0700, "Rory" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Would Series II leaf springs fit on a 1957 Series One?
>>
>>Daisy , my 109 , has developed a bit of a list.
>
>I'm working from what i've read and seen here not from experience, but
>i thought that the series 1 had narrower springs than the later
>series'es (and thus different mounts and stuff)?

a SI 109" might have SII-style springs, though. 's about the last of the
SIs.

The older SIs esepcially SWB had narrower springs, yes.
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"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On or around Fri, 09 Jun 2006 21:10:07 +0100, Tom Woods
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >On 9 Jun 2006 12:41:00 -0700, "Rory" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Would Series II leaf springs fit on a 1957 Series One?
> >>
> >>Daisy , my 109 , has developed a bit of a list.
> >
> >I'm working from what i've read and seen here not from experience, but
> >i thought that the series 1 had narrower springs than the later
> >series'es (and thus different mounts and stuff)?
>
> a SI 109" might have SII-style springs, though. 's about the last of the
> SIs.
>
> The older SIs esepcially SWB had narrower springs, yes.
>

The earliest 80" had narrow springs front and rear with reversed shackles on
the fronts and later 80"s had only narrow on the rear IIRC. All the other
series 1, 2 and 3 will fit your 109" as far as sizes go but the strengths
are different.

Martin.

In message <[email protected]>
"Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Would Series II leaf springs fit on a 1957 Series One?
>
> Daisy , my 109 , has developed a bit of a list.
>

In a word - yes! Apart from early 80" SI's all series
vehicles have the same springs dimensionaly speaking.

Richard

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beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Would Series II leaf springs fit on a 1957 Series One?
> >
> > Daisy , my 109 , has developed a bit of a list.
> >
>
> In a word - yes! Apart from early 80" SI's all series
> vehicles have the same springs dimensionaly speaking.
>
> Richard
>
> --
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Thank you Mr.B, can you give us a quote for LWB 109 rear leaf springs
delivered please to South Somerset.

In message <[email protected]>
"Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> beamendsltd wrote:
> > In message <[email protected]>
> > "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Would Series II leaf springs fit on a 1957 Series One?
> > >
> > > Daisy , my 109 , has developed a bit of a list.
> > >
> >
> > In a word - yes! Apart from early 80" SI's all series
> > vehicles have the same springs dimensionaly speaking.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > --
> > www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> > RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone?
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>
> Thank you Mr.B, can you give us a quote for LWB 109 rear leaf springs
> delivered please to South Somerset.
>

Do you want the posh ones with the helper leaf or standard?

Richard
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> > beamendsltd wrote:
> > > In message <[email protected]>
> > > "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Do you want the posh ones with the helper leaf or standard?
>
> Richard


Quote for both and I will see what i can afford.

Thasnks.

In message <[email protected]>
"Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > > beamendsltd wrote:
> > > > In message <[email protected]>
> > > > "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Do you want the posh ones with the helper leaf or standard?
> >
> > Richard
>
>
> Quote for both and I will see what i can afford.
>
> Thasnks.
>

272967 Leaf Spring - Rear RH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf - Series 109
272968 Leaf Spring - Rear LH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf - Series 109
Both £45.82 inc VAT each

279678 Leaf Spring - Rear RH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf with 2 Helper
Leafs - Series 109
279679 Leaf Spring - Rear LH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf With 2 Helper
Leafs - Series 109
both £38.77 inc VAT each

delivery to UK mainland would be free for a pair of either.

Richard

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On or around Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:13:04 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>In message <[email protected]>
> "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> > > beamendsltd wrote:
>> > > > In message <[email protected]>
>> > > > "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Do you want the posh ones with the helper leaf or standard?
>> >
>> > Richard
>>
>>
>> Quote for both and I will see what i can afford.
>>
>> Thasnks.
>>
>
>272967 Leaf Spring - Rear RH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf - Series 109
>272968 Leaf Spring - Rear LH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf - Series 109
>Both £45.82 inc VAT each
>
>279678 Leaf Spring - Rear RH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf with 2 Helper
> Leafs - Series 109
>279679 Leaf Spring - Rear LH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf With 2 Helper
> Leafs - Series 109
>both £38.77 inc VAT each
>

out of interest, do you do parabolics as well? I'd not fit standard leaves
to a series any more unless it was a rarity and I was bothered about
originality.
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the jollyrodgered sea." Dylan Thomas (1914 - 1953) Under milk wood

In message <[email protected]>
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> On or around Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:13:04 +0100, beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >In message <[email protected]>
> > "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > > beamendsltd wrote:
> >> > > > In message <[email protected]>
> >> > > > "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Do you want the posh ones with the helper leaf or standard?
> >> >
> >> > Richard
> >>
> >>
> >> Quote for both and I will see what i can afford.
> >>
> >> Thasnks.
> >>
> >
> >272967 Leaf Spring - Rear RH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf - Series 109
> >272968 Leaf Spring - Rear LH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf - Series 109
> >Both £45.82 inc VAT each
> >
> >279678 Leaf Spring - Rear RH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf with 2 Helper
> > Leafs - Series 109
> >279679 Leaf Spring - Rear LH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf With 2 Helper
> > Leafs - Series 109
> >both £38.77 inc VAT each
> >
>
> out of interest, do you do parabolics as well? I'd not fit standard leaves
> to a series any more unless it was a rarity and I was bothered about
> originality.

Certainly do - they are on special offer this month too - if you
mail me I'l do a quote - note though that we don't do the very
cheap ones available from one or two places.......

Richard

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On or around Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:52:34 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>In message <[email protected]>
> Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On or around Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:13:04 +0100, beamendsltd
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>> >In message <[email protected]>
>> > "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> > > beamendsltd wrote:
>> >> > > > In message <[email protected]>
>> >> > > > "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you want the posh ones with the helper leaf or standard?
>> >> >
>> >> > Richard
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Quote for both and I will see what i can afford.
>> >>
>> >> Thasnks.
>> >>
>> >
>> >272967 Leaf Spring - Rear RH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf - Series 109
>> >272968 Leaf Spring - Rear LH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf - Series 109
>> >Both £45.82 inc VAT each
>> >
>> >279678 Leaf Spring - Rear RH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf with 2 Helper
>> > Leafs - Series 109
>> >279679 Leaf Spring - Rear LH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf With 2 Helper
>> > Leafs - Series 109
>> >both £38.77 inc VAT each
>> >
>>
>> out of interest, do you do parabolics as well? I'd not fit standard leaves
>> to a series any more unless it was a rarity and I was bothered about
>> originality.
>
>Certainly do - they are on special offer this month too - if you
>mail me I'l do a quote - note though that we don't do the very
>cheap ones available from one or two places.......

not much use to me, I've already got a set. mine aren't cheapos either,
they came from Chris Perfect via a backdoor (actually, they were a set that
someone sent back 'cos they were "noisy"...) so I got 'em cheap, and
part-paid in work done rather than cash. CP himself has retired and another
chap is running it now, though, but the company still carries his name and
still sells the same stuff.

Highly recommend 'em, though - 's a revelation to have suspension movement
on a 109. Mine had HD rears on it when I got it, and for all the give in
'em I reckon they might as well have just bolted the axle to the chassis -
probably work quite well if you normally carry 3/4 ton, mind.

all of this reminds me, must get me chassis sorted. Front spring hangers -
do they come with an extension bit to attach to the chassis? On mine the
chassis has cracked through vertically immediately aft of the off-side front
hanger (or dumb-iron, if you prefer). The spring hanger itself looks OK. a
front end repair section that works like the rear crossmembers with
extensions on would be ideal - if they're not like that then I'm probably
better off looking at a major patching job.

can you get a replacement mount for the top of the rear damper, LWB series?
If not, I'll have to fabricate one.



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In message <[email protected]>
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> On or around Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:52:34 +0100, beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >In message <[email protected]>
> > Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On or around Sun, 11 Jun 2006 09:13:04 +0100, beamendsltd
> >> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >>
> >> >In message <[email protected]>
> >> > "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > > beamendsltd wrote:
> >> >> > > > In message <[email protected]>
> >> >> > > > "Rory" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Do you want the posh ones with the helper leaf or standard?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Richard
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Quote for both and I will see what i can afford.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thasnks.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >272967 Leaf Spring - Rear RH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf - Series 109
> >> >272968 Leaf Spring - Rear LH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf - Series 109
> >> >Both £45.82 inc VAT each
> >> >
> >> >279678 Leaf Spring - Rear RH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf with 2 Helper
> >> > Leafs - Series 109
> >> >279679 Leaf Spring - Rear LH - Heavy Duty - 8 Leaf With 2 Helper
> >> > Leafs - Series 109
> >> >both £38.77 inc VAT each
> >> >
> >>
> >> out of interest, do you do parabolics as well? I'd not fit standard leaves
> >> to a series any more unless it was a rarity and I was bothered about
> >> originality.
> >
> >Certainly do - they are on special offer this month too - if you
> >mail me I'l do a quote - note though that we don't do the very
> >cheap ones available from one or two places.......
>
> not much use to me, I've already got a set. mine aren't cheapos either,
> they came from Chris Perfect via a backdoor (actually, they were a set that
> someone sent back 'cos they were "noisy"...) so I got 'em cheap, and
> part-paid in work done rather than cash. CP himself has retired and another
> chap is running it now, though, but the company still carries his name and
> still sells the same stuff.
>
> Highly recommend 'em, though - 's a revelation to have suspension movement
> on a 109. Mine had HD rears on it when I got it, and for all the give in
> 'em I reckon they might as well have just bolted the axle to the chassis -
> probably work quite well if you normally carry 3/4 ton, mind.
>
> all of this reminds me, must get me chassis sorted. Front spring hangers -
> do they come with an extension bit to attach to the chassis? On mine the
> chassis has cracked through vertically immediately aft of the off-side front
> hanger (or dumb-iron, if you prefer). The spring hanger itself looks OK. a
> front end repair section that works like the rear crossmembers with
> extensions on would be ideal - if they're not like that then I'm probably
> better off looking at a major patching job.
>

The dumb irons come with everything forward of the crossmember - you
cut the old one of flush with the memeber and the new one welds on -
complete with a lip to locate it properly.

> can you get a replacement mount for the top of the rear damper, LWB series?
> If not, I'll have to fabricate one.

Not that I'm aware of.

Richard

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On or around Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:03:18 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>The dumb irons come with everything forward of the crossmember - you
>cut the old one of flush with the memeber and the new one welds on -
>complete with a lip to locate it properly.

sounds good. I'll order one soonish.
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