P38A Springs back to air UPDATE

Hi,
I've just got myself a P38 Range Rover (picking up next Saturday). Someone has swapped the air suspension out for springs, has anyone ever swapped from springs back to air, the air suspension seems a better option to me so would like to put it back if I can. Any advise would be appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

All possible, level of work depends on how much was removed.

Bags are relatively cheap, you need a resorvoir, valve block, height sensors, lines and compressor.
Unfamiliar with P38 but they are slightly simpler' than L322s, no cross-over valves.

More than likely someone just snipped the lines near the bags and you still have tank et al.

Thed is no insurmountable problems in conveting back. Not really all that expensive although not cheap. First thing is find out whats there

I think I paid around 1k to get all of the parts I needed to put my vehicle back on air. The PO had removed everything related to EAS (and did a bodge job of the EAS bypass loom), including the airlines.

It was fiddly to reroute the lines, but the overall process wasn't that bad, everything was plug and play, the contacts for the height sensors needed cleaning, but no real problems. But having access to a large selection of nuts and bolts helped for sure.

If you're lucky they only removed the airbags.

Capripaul said:

Hi,
I've just got myself a P38 Range Rover (picking up next Saturday). Someone has swapped the air suspension out for springs, has anyone ever swapped from springs back to air, the air suspension seems a better option to me so would like to put it back if I can. Any advise would be appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

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Welcome to Landyzone!

First job, download and read RAVE. See the Technical Section.

welcome to the mad house
nice to see some one with the right attitude towards a p38 there have been two or three threads in the last year about going back to air, first thing nave a good look to see what is left and report back, all the help you will ever need is here.

I think Wammers night be buisy soon. Welcome.

Grrrrrr said:

Welcome to Landyzone!

First job, download and read RAVE. See the Technical Section.

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lots of advice will follow.

As others have said, how difficult or expensive it will be depends entirely on how butchered it is. If you have everything there other than bags. £250.00 will get you a set of bags and a fitting kit for them. Then you have to find out why it was taken off air in the first place. If the PO was incompetent it could be something pretty simple. You could just need a compressor rebuild or valve block refurb. At some point you will need diag, trying to get EAS working without diag is a fools errand.

On Wammers note above on diagnostics, don't go blowing money. Assuming you decide to go ahead, send a message to a guy on here called Datatek asking if he be kind enough to knock up a lead and the EAS unlock software. It'll be the same free software from Storey Wilson that they all try to charge for on the Bay.

Grrrrrr said:

On Wammers note above on diagnostics, don't go blowing money. Assuming you decide to go ahead, send a message to a guy on here called Datatek asking if he be kind enough to knock up a lead and the EAS unlock software. It'll be the same free software from Storey Wilson that they all try to charge for on the Bay.

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Yep good thought although Keith is not on much anymore. But has a look in occasionally.

Did he not spit the dummy when the forum got re-vamped and he couldn't/wouldn't adapt?
I miss him

myfirstl322 said:

Did he not spit the dummy when the forum got re-vamped and he couldn't/wouldn't adapt?
I miss him

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His knowledge and indeed altercations with Wammers are missed by everyone. Someone said he was on RR.net but I'm not sure he still is. I think he responds to e-mails though. Hope he's OK.

Not seen much of Tomcat recently either.

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His knowledge and indeed altercations with Wammers are missed by everyone. Someone said he was on RR.net but I'm not sure he still is. I think he responds to e-mails though. Hope he's OK.

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Keith is a good bloke. He was busy around his property and had just got hold of another P38 to play with last time we talked.

Thanks for all the replies, I'm not picking the car up till Saturday so will have a good look around it then and report back with what is missing. I've downloaded RAVE so will have a good look at that as well.

Cheers
Paul

Capripaul said:

Thanks for all the replies, I'm not picking the car up till Saturday so will have a good look around it then and report back with what is missing. I've downloaded RAVE so will have a good look at that as well.

Cheers
Paul

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Budget £1000k to sort the inevitable niggles!

Good luck, hopefully it's just been neutered via 4 little snips........oooh

Well I picked the car up Saturday and it looks like the air bags have just been removed and the air lines cut, so plan is to order some new air bags and get some diagnostic software and see what happens. Will then hopefully find the fault that caused someone to remove them.

Sounds a good start, atleast every thing else is there, you might want to do a referb kit on the pump and valve block under £40 and will then give you a known pump and block there is a how to in Tech Archive and it's the most common problem area

Sounds good, I think I'll order the bits all together, seems the best option.