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Anyone heard of insurance being invalid as the speed rating on the tyre is not the same as the ones it would have left the factory with????
Sounds like bollocks to me but the better half reckons thats what she heard at work??????:eek::eek:
 
No but as long as it is the correct rating for the car you should have no problems.
The load index is more important IMO.
 
Heard it. Seems to be a grey area. Seems to be a few regs that say you must use tyres for the max rating of the vehicle. Does every garage check? doubtful.. Would an insurance company wriggle out of a claim... maybe..
 
Anyone have a clue what the speed rating and dare i say it the correct wheel is for a 300tdi Defender 1995, is meant to be then mine has 265/75/R16 on Disco 1 rims so they are defiantly not bloody standard and as the better half works for the friggin insurance company i will need to tow the line, why is life so friggin complicated:violent:
 
From past experience
If an insurance company want to get out of paying they will look for a reason to not pay
So a speed rating that's not to the spec of the car would be a get out of paying card
 
discostew38 said:
From past experience
If an insurance company want to get out of paying they will look for a reason to not pay
So a speed rating that's not to the spec of the car would be a get out of paying card
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mate got stitched on a gsi cav years back had an accident a week after buying it, insurance would not pay out as previous owner had put a diff speed rated tyre on car, 3 rated at one level and one at another.
 
landies must have a factory spec for tyres surely

question then, as in europe, by law, you have to change your tyres for winter tread type for so many months of the year,
the scandanavians have to use studded or chains


not spammin but try these people, as there website might show your correct rated tyres

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/start.html?pk_campaign=google_pkw

I tried this search by reg number

Search by registration number
Please enter your vehicle registration number.
We will then find the correct tyres for your vehicle.

Vehicle Registration Number:

Vehicle information for registration number J418***
Make/Manufacturer: LAND ROVER

Model: DISCOVERY

Derivative: TURBO DIESEL

Compatible tyre sizes for registration number J418***
If you click on the tyre-size links, you’ll find a list of suitable tyres at

front rear
255/75R15 108S
235/70R16 105H
255/65R16 105H
235/70R16 105H
235/75R15 108S
 
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The official line is your insurance can be void if you don't fit a tyre "approved by the manufacturer". It's the latest get out clause from insurers. I'm in the motor trade and have been for 22 years. All manufacturers have a list of manufacturers approval certificates which list what is and isn't authorised. The manufacturer I get my hands dirty on makes this info available. Others don't. Some manufacturers put their own mark on a tyre as an approval. Porsche use a letter "N" followed by a number to denote an approved tyre, Bentley do the same but use a "B". There are others. I would suggest a couple of things here. First off, the tyres are the only thing connecting you to the road so fitting whoflungdung ditchfinder specials to your 2 and a half ton truck is probably not the best idea in the world, sticking with branded tyres is a good idea for yours and indeed everyone else's safety. Secondly make sure your load speed index (The numbers followed by a letter I.E 102Y or similar) Is what was fitted originally. The numbers indicate the load rating, the letter the speed rating, however the two together combine to give the load speed index. This index has to be correct. Although you may think you don't need a Y rated speed rating, you have to consider it as a crucial aspect of the load index. These are big heavy machines and impose big loads on tyres, Make sure you have what it suggests in your handbook.
 
Soon remould tyres cannot legally be fitted to a vehicle by a tyre man. They can be fitted for offroad use. Remoulds will either drop off the market place because eveyone will have to use BFG's Mitchelins etc or change tyres at events which I assure you sucks Been there done that.

Tyre regs 2012 they say will phase in slowly but I think they will screw the offroad market good and propper.
 
This could turn into an expensive nightmare. I quote from RAVE for my Rangie, "Replacement tyres must be of the make and size recommended for the vehicle, and all tyres must be the same make, ply rating and tread pattern."
The tyres supplied by Land Rover for my car are no longer manufactured so I can't use them. Can I phone up Solihull and ask what modern tyre should I fit on a car they produced 12 years ago, oh and can I have that in writing please for my insurance company?
(What series owners are expected to do is anybody's guess)
Then there's the matching tread pattern on all tyres. So, if I have an unrepairable puncture but the tyre manufacturer has launched it's new, better tread pattern, does this mean five new tyres?
 
jai_landrover said:
Soon remould tyres cannot legally be fitted to a vehicle by a tyre man. They can be fitted for offroad use. Remoulds will either drop off the market place because eveyone will have to use BFG's Mitchelins etc or change tyres at events which I assure you sucks Been there done that.

Tyre regs 2012 they say will phase in slowly but I think they will screw the offroad market good and propper.
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Rubbish there is nothing in the regs that makes remoulds illegal and in fact there are remoulds been made to suit the noo regs. which mainly affect the way tyres are marked. Far more than they actually affect the way the are made..

FAQS - Why Better Tyres | Campaign for Better Tyres
Can I buy energy efficient, low noise retreads?

Yes. Tyre manufacturers are now offering retread tyres which offer the same low rolling resistance technology and low noise tyres as new tyres.
 
dogsbody said:
This could turn into an expensive nightmare. I quote from RAVE for my Rangie, "Replacement tyres must be of the make and size recommended for the vehicle, and all tyres must be the same make, ply rating and tread pattern."
The tyres supplied by Land Rover for my car are no longer manufactured so I can't use them. Can I phone up Solihull and ask what modern tyre should I fit on a car they produced 12 years ago, oh and can I have that in writing please for my insurance company?
(What series owners are expected to do is anybody's guess)
Then there's the matching tread pattern on all tyres. So, if I have an unrepairable puncture but the tyre manufacturer has launched it's new, better tread pattern, does this mean five new tyres?
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NO EU Law has already said manufacturers can not insist on the make of replacement parts fitted to their vehicles..
 
dogsbody said:
The tyres supplied by Land Rover for my car are no longer manufactured so I can't use them. Can I phone up Solihull and ask what modern tyre should I fit on a car they produced 12 years ago, oh and can I have that in writing please for my insurance company?
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The tyre manufacturer will recommend a direct replacement. We can't get Michelin 305/30/19 anymore in an N0 or N1 but they now do an N3 which is there recommended replacement.

The other thing to remember is tyres also need to be less than 6 years old. (All tyres are date marked)

EU block exemption in regards to what you can and can't fit to your vehicle is a huge minefield of twists and turns and you can't take it as read. Certainly our line, and that of the two other prestige manufacturers I have worked for is unless it is a genuine supplied part then it will affect your warranty, to the point any trade in vehicles we want to resell have to have anything non genuine removed and replaced with original parts. Easy for us to detect because every original supplied part caries a marking which is not there on aftermarket components.
Now me personally I will quite happily fit non genuine parts to my own vehicle as long as they are of a good quality manufacurer that supplies the manufacturing side, so the likes of Bosch, Febi-Bilstein, Ferrodo, Brembo, Pagid, Meyle etc are all good. There are moves afoot now under EU legislation to prevent you modifying your vehicle in any way and that includes fitting any sort of aftermarket/non original parts and also restricting the supply of parts to non approved people. All part of a plan to get anything remotely old off the road and screwing the DIYer. It's being fought and will probably not get through.. or not this time anyway.
 
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