Sound in Freelander after starting engine

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Anna Klain

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Hi all,

I have had a Freelander Diesel for a couple of months now. now that it is
getting colder, there are strange sounds after about a minute after starting
the engine. It sounds like the fan (sorry, do not know teh precise words) to
cool but this seems unlikeable as after just one minute...

Any idea what this might be? soemone told me it might be a heater to get the
diesel engine warm faster in winter. Does the Freelander have something like
this?

Anna Klain


 
On or around Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:53:12 +0100, "Anna Klain"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Hi all,
>
>I have had a Freelander Diesel for a couple of months now. now that it is
>getting colder, there are strange sounds after about a minute after starting
>the engine. It sounds like the fan (sorry, do not know teh precise words) to
>cool but this seems unlikeable as after just one minute...
>
>Any idea what this might be? soemone told me it might be a heater to get the
>diesel engine warm faster in winter. Does the Freelander have something like
>this?



I believe it might.

hmmm, that's a thought, wonder if you can fit it to a 300 TDi. bloody thing
takes ages to get warm in winter.

 

"Anna Klain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I have had a Freelander Diesel for a couple of months now. now that it is
> getting colder, there are strange sounds after about a minute after
> starting
> the engine. It sounds like the fan (sorry, do not know teh precise words)
> to
> cool but this seems unlikeable as after just one minute...
>
> Any idea what this might be? soemone told me it might be a heater to get
> the
> diesel engine warm faster in winter. Does the Freelander have something
> like
> this?
>
> Anna Klain
>
>

Yup, it's the fuel-burning heater. If you look at the nearside front (on UK
models) you'll see a silvery down pipe which is its exhaust. If the
ground's really cold you see a small thawed area after a few minutes.

David

 
On or around Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:38:23 +0000, Mr.Nice.
<mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:06:57 +0000, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>I believe it might.
>>
>>hmmm, that's a thought, wonder if you can fit it to a 300 TDi. bloody thing
>>takes ages to get warm in winter.
>>

>
>there was a thread here recently about the td4 (or was it td5) and
>it's preheater thingy, someone who knows about it will be along
>presently, or have a poke on google and see if you can find the
>thread.
>
>Austin, I've been thinking about removing my fixed-fan and replacing
>it with a kenlowe fan or pacet or something, one mounted more or less
>where the fixed fan is now and maybe another infront of the radiator.
>I'm hoping to reduce the warm-up time for my trips to cold places and
>also be sure there is loads of cooling for the summers which get jolly
>warm here. what are your thoughts oh great oracle.


hmmm. mixed.

I had an electric fan on the V8 110, was fine until it's motor seized and
burnt out one hot day, leaving it with no cooling to speak of. After that I
put a fixed one back on.

If you can get a viscous one, I'd go for that.

Mind, on a Di minibus (Perkins Prima 2.0) I removed the fan altogether, and
it never overheated, even in traffic. I'd not recommend this on a TD or
even really on a TDi.

2 fans would give you a backup system, I admit. I'm not sure that the fan
contributes much to the warm-up time, though. The main problem with the TDi
especially is that it's too bloody efficient, and doesn't make enough waster
heat :)

worth making sure that the thermostat works, mind - not expensive to
replace, so if in doubt replace it. Also make sure the heater is operating
up to spec - I used to find the 110 heater would gradually lose power -
cured this by swapping the pipes into the heater matrix over every few
months. Don't ask me why this works, but it worked on the disco an' all.

Another (2) things to check: When you put the heater control to "hot", does
the flap in the heater box move all the way to the hot end of it's travel?
and is the foam stuff around the heater matrix intact? On mine, the matrix
was rattling around in the box, due to the foam strips having disintegrated,
so that some of the air from the blower was going around it and not being
heated. PITA to fix, that last. You have to get the whole thing out, drill
out about 37 rivets to get the box apart, put suitable foam stuff around the
matrix and replace (most of) the 37 rivets.

 
On or around Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:42:26 -0000, "Rabbits"
<Dave@spam_me_not.charnia.freeserve.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Anna Klain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have had a Freelander Diesel for a couple of months now. now that it is
>> getting colder, there are strange sounds after about a minute after
>> starting
>> the engine. It sounds like the fan (sorry, do not know teh precise words)
>> to
>> cool but this seems unlikeable as after just one minute...
>>
>> Any idea what this might be? soemone told me it might be a heater to get
>> the
>> diesel engine warm faster in winter. Does the Freelander have something
>> like
>> this?
>>
>> Anna Klain
>>
>>

>Yup, it's the fuel-burning heater. If you look at the nearside front (on UK
>models) you'll see a silvery down pipe which is its exhaust. If the
>ground's really cold you see a small thawed area after a few minutes.


What does it heat? Or rather, where does the heat go? Into the heater
directly via a heat exchanger or into the coolant?

This might be the solution to the problem of no heat for the first 3 miles
or so in the TDi disco.

 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:42:26 -0000, "Rabbits"
> <Dave@spam_me_not.charnia.freeserve.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>"Anna Klain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have had a Freelander Diesel for a couple of months now. now that it
>>> is
>>> getting colder, there are strange sounds after about a minute after
>>> starting
>>> the engine. It sounds like the fan (sorry, do not know teh precise
>>> words)
>>> to
>>> cool but this seems unlikeable as after just one minute...
>>>
>>> Any idea what this might be? soemone told me it might be a heater to get
>>> the
>>> diesel engine warm faster in winter. Does the Freelander have something
>>> like
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Anna Klain
>>>
>>>

>>Yup, it's the fuel-burning heater. If you look at the nearside front (on
>>UK
>>models) you'll see a silvery down pipe which is its exhaust. If the
>>ground's really cold you see a small thawed area after a few minutes.

>
> What does it heat? Or rather, where does the heat go? Into the heater
> directly via a heat exchanger or into the coolant?
>
> This might be the solution to the problem of no heat for the first 3 miles
> or so in the TDi disco.
>

The Td4 takes a while to warm up enough to provide heat to the cabin so this
is a way round it - the FBH provides additional heat to the cabin whilst the
engine warms up. According to the handbook it's an auxiliary heater that
only operates when the engine is running and the ambient temp is < 5deg C.
At low temperatures the FBH maintains the temperature range required for
optimum heating within the vehicle.

That said, I assume the heat goes directly into the main heater matrix.
Seems to work, anyway.

David

 
Hi there,

thanks for your answer - I am sure now that it is this preheater thing.!!
Relief!

"Rabbits" <Dave@spam_me_not.charnia.freeserve.co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Anna Klain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have had a Freelander Diesel for a couple of months now. now that it

is
> > getting colder, there are strange sounds after about a minute after
> > starting
> > the engine. It sounds like the fan (sorry, do not know teh precise

words)
> > to
> > cool but this seems unlikeable as after just one minute...
> > Anna Klain
> >
> >

> Yup, it's the fuel-burning heater. If you look at the nearside front (on

UK
> models) you'll see a silvery down pipe which is its exhaust. If the
> ground's really cold you see a small thawed area after a few minutes.


Right! I did see this exhaust near teh front (driver's side - uhm...left
side in Germany...)

Thanks again!

Anna





 
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