Some one mentioned braided hoses

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DavidM

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• Sep 29, 2004

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It was said previously that braided hose can improve the brakeing on a
series.
I was wondering if there is a company/clever person that could make up a
single hose that runs from the clutch master cylinger to the slave. I don't
like the multiple connections and rubber sections. I'm guessing that all the
connections are still that same as on Defenders. (what do they use between
master and slave?)

I also want to change the short bleed pipe to a section of flexible hose and
ditch the bracket that attaches to the clutch housing. Anybody done any of
this before?
Any thoughts on it.

David

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Lee_D

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• Sep 29, 2004

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"DavidM" <djm81@(I hate spam)cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Any thoughts on it.
>
> David

Having had a brand new hose split in less than 12 months I'd not touch
braided purely because you wouln't be able to see that split.

I know there are Pro's and Cons but thats just my opionion. Unlikely to kill
you on a clutch mind.. but then if installing braded hoses is some attempt
to improve the clutch operation then unless your current hose is ballooning
I'd suggest that your problems will only continue.

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Andy Warner

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• Sep 29, 2004

• #3

"DavidM" <djm81@(I hate spam)cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It was said previously that braided hose can improve the brakeing on a
> series.
> I was wondering if there is a company/clever person that could make up a
> single hose that runs from the clutch master cylinger to the slave. I
don't
> like the multiple connections and rubber sections. I'm guessing that all
the
> connections are still that same as on Defenders. (what do they use between
> master and slave?)
>
> I also want to change the short bleed pipe to a section of flexible hose
and
> ditch the bracket that attaches to the clutch housing. Anybody done any of
> this before?
> Any thoughts on it.
>
> David

Triumph Dolomites had a single flexible pipe between clutch master and
slave. To be honest braided hose won't make a bit of difference on the
clutch - it works fine as it is. The dolomite hose is some kind of plastic
and should fit fine, just don't get it too near the exhaust manifold!! Most
of the series stuff is girling, and imperial, I'm guessing the defender
stuff will be metric and hence incompatible. Why not just change the bleed
pipe to a bleed nipple and clip on a bit of rubber hose when you want to
bleed?

Andy

 

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DavidM

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• Sep 29, 2004

• #4

"Andy Warner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Triumph Dolomites had a single flexible pipe between clutch master and
> slave. To be honest braided hose won't make a bit of difference on the
> clutch - it works fine as it is. The dolomite hose is some kind of plastic
> and should fit fine, just don't get it too near the exhaust manifold!!
Most
> of the series stuff is girling, and imperial, I'm guessing the defender
> stuff will be metric and hence incompatible. Why not just change the bleed
> pipe to a bleed nipple and clip on a bit of rubber hose when you want to
> bleed?
>
> Andy

I tried to get the slave cylinder off of the clutch housing last weekend and
found it would not come out completely without detaching the bleed pipe. The
hole thing was just too big to come clear because of the large bracket that
'supports' the bleed pipe.
I was picturing a simple flexible system that could be easily removed to
diagnose any problems.
Don't really expect braided hose to improve clutch opperation. I'm pretty
sure that the nasty britpart slave is leaking, much like the nasty britpart
master did after less than 1000 miles. I think these cheap parts must be ok
with regular use, but my SIII spends most of its life sat on the drive and
only used odd weekends.

I'll just live with the pipes that are there, best not to over complcate
things.
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beamendsltd

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• Sep 29, 2004

• #5

In message <[email protected]>
"DavidM" <djm81@(I hate spam)cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> It was said previously that braided hose can improve the brakeing on a
> series.
> I was wondering if there is a company/clever person that could make up a
> single hose that runs from the clutch master cylinger to the slave. I don't
> like the multiple connections and rubber sections. I'm guessing that all the
> connections are still that same as on Defenders. (what do they use between
> master and slave?)
>
> I also want to change the short bleed pipe to a section of flexible hose and
> ditch the bracket that attaches to the clutch housing. Anybody done any of
> this before?
> Any thoughts on it.
>
> David
>
Watch this space................

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David_LLAMA4x4

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• Sep 30, 2004

• #6

"DavidM" <djm81@(I hate spam)cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It was said previously that braided hose can improve the brakeing on a
> series.
> I was wondering if there is a company/clever person that could make up a
> single hose that runs from the clutch master cylinger to the slave. I
don't
> like the multiple connections and rubber sections. I'm guessing that all
the
> connections are still that same as on Defenders. (what do they use between
> master and slave?)
>
> I also want to change the short bleed pipe to a section of flexible hose
and
> ditch the bracket that attaches to the clutch housing. Anybody done any of
> this before?
> Any thoughts on it.
>
> David
>
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I can happily do both hoses for you no problem - do them quite often for
various LRs and circuit racing cars....

They need to be made of -4 hose ( brakes are -3 size ) so as to allow the
fluid to return through quick enough or the clutch slips...

As a guide price I have just made one for a rally-raid spec RRClassic -
this one was 6' long and cost him £ 46.43 plus carriage.
The bleed hose could be cheaper as I suppose it could be made of -3.....

Email me or phone 01938.850382

David
LLAMA 4x4
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Austin Shackles

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• Sep 30, 2004

• #7

On or around Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:07:10 -0700, "David_LLAMA4x4"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

> I can happily do both hoses for you no problem - do them quite often for
>various LRs and circuit racing cars....
>

this talk of increasing the braking on the disco has me slightly baffled -
the most common problem I get on mine is locking up front wheels.

 

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David_LLAMA4x4

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• Sep 30, 2004

• #8

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On or around Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:07:10 -0700, "David_LLAMA4x4"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> > I can happily do both hoses for you no problem - do them quite often for
> >various LRs and circuit racing cars....
> >
>
> this talk of increasing the braking on the disco has me slightly baffled -
> the most common problem I get on mine is locking up front wheels.
>
>

The locking of wheels is down to how much grip the tyres have on the road
surface and how hard you press the pedal...
Where stainless braid hoses would help in your case is by locking the
wheels with less pressure on the pedal from your leg saving your leg muscles
from too much strain!!

David
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Austin Shackles

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• Sep 30, 2004

• #9

On or around Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:12:37 -0700, "David_LLAMA4x4"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>The locking of wheels is down to how much grip the tyres have on the road
>surface and how hard you press the pedal...

I did know that... my point was that the brakes seem plenty powerful enough
as they are, I don't have a problem with not enough brake force, only with
not enough grip on wet muddy roads.

 

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EMB

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• Sep 30, 2004

• #10

Austin Shackles wrote:

> this talk of increasing the braking on the disco has me slightly baffled -
> the most common problem I get on mine is locking up front wheels.

What brake pads are you using Austin - I'd tend to some harder front
pads if you have a problem locking the front wheels (or some softer rear
pads) to even the braking up a bit.

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Austin Shackles

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• Oct 1, 2004

• #11

On or around Fri, 01 Oct 2004 08:40:41 +1200, EMB <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> this talk of increasing the braking on the disco has me slightly baffled -
>> the most common problem I get on mine is locking up front wheels.
>
>What brake pads are you using Austin - I'd tend to some harder front
>pads if you have a problem locking the front wheels (or some softer rear
>pads) to even the braking up a bit.

damned if I know, whatever were on it when I bought it

prolly go with genuine replacements when they need 'em, as I've found them
pretty reasonable in the past.

the main problem however is slimy roads and short sight distances. blasted
lot are hauling timber out from forests all over the place, and spreading a
thin layer of mud everywhere in the process.

 

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David_LLAMA4x4

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• Oct 1, 2004

• #12

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On or around Fri, 01 Oct 2004 08:40:41 +1200, EMB <[email protected]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >Austin Shackles wrote:
> >
> >> this talk of increasing the braking on the disco has me slightly
baffled -
> >> the most common problem I get on mine is locking up front wheels.
> >
> >What brake pads are you using Austin - I'd tend to some harder front
> >pads if you have a problem locking the front wheels (or some softer rear
> >pads) to even the braking up a bit.
>
> damned if I know, whatever were on it when I bought it
>
> prolly go with genuine replacements when they need 'em, as I've found them
> pretty reasonable in the past.
>
> the main problem however is slimy roads and short sight distances.
blasted
> lot are hauling timber out from forests all over the place, and spreading
a
> thin layer of mud everywhere in the process.
>

Ploughing of fileds for the first time in 3 years is the trend by us at the
moment! Leaving the same thin layer of mud as you are suffering from all
over the roads in and out of the village....
imagine if that was offroaders, or even quarry workers that made as much
mess on the public highway as farmers!!!

David
LLAMA 4x4
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