chunkymunky
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gisa go wiv ya aunt.....:bump2:
best fookin post yet.....
Tbh gf never looked at me quite the same
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Tbh gf never looked at me quite the same
AT & MT tyres don't have the right compound to be effective on ice & shallow snow. As someone else pointed out, proper winter tyres are the only suitable tyres unless you want to add chains or studs. (which many believe to be unsuitable for UK weather conditions anyway.)
AT & MT tyres will only help you if you find yourself in very deep snow. - very unlikely in most parts of the UK. They're not very good on ice & shallow snow though because there will be less tyre in contact with the road, even when compared to normal road tyres. (due to the bigger grooves) and nothing for it to grip on to.
My disco 300tdi had BFG AT tyres and it was far from being immunue to snow & ice. While it didn't get stuck, it still had a tendency to slide/skid easily. I hate to say it but my old gaylander with road biased tyres did a lot better. (largely due to TC) It wasn't much good at anything else though.
AT & MT tyres will only help you if you find yourself in very deep snow. - very unlikely in most parts of the UK. They're not very good on ice & shallow snow though because there will be less tyre in contact with the road, even when compared to normal road tyres. (due to the bigger grooves) and nothing for it to grip on to.
My disco 300tdi had BFG AT tyres and it was far from being immunue to snow & ice. While it didn't get stuck, it still had a tendency to slide/skid easily. I hate to say it but my old gaylander with road biased tyres did a lot better. (largely due to TC) It wasn't much good at anything else though.
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mark-d
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what ever tyres you have its more about how you drive it in the conditions that make the big difference
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The bad winter two years ago prior to owning a landy the best weapon in the snow I had at my disposal was a Megan scenic. It honestly went anywhere with small narrow tyres.
I'm on the edge of the Cairngorms and we can have snow from November to March (there is now on the ground as I write) and it can get down to -20. Have to say I use AT's and they are fine. Obviously they can't defeat the laws of physics so they can slip around a bit but I have no problem driving distances in heavy snow on them.
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I drive 120 miles on a snowy workday and I work in a ski resort town. I've tried all types of tyres for winter over the many years, snow tires studded and not studded, all season and ATs. My vote, if someone gave me one, would be for the studded versions. I've used them for several years. But these days, more and more of my clients won't allow studs on their drive or car park. So I've gone to running a mud and snow rated AT which performs very well. I don't know if you can get them in the UK, but if you can, I highly suggest the Cooper Discoverer AT/3s. I know that there is no such thing as an all around tyre, but this tyre is the closest thing to it that I've found to it so far. Combined with a Landy and proper driving skills, they'll do the job for you in the nasty of winter.
Sensible answer IMO. Basically ATs are a good bet for a range of conditions (which is why they were invented). Most people can't/ don't want to have multiple sets of tyres/ wheels. ATs should be fine if you don't drive like a fool or get unlucky.
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I am one of those who cannot afford multiple sets of tyres but from the sounds people are making I am glad I went for the at's. a balance of being quite good at most things and durability. They are also good on the motorway with no road noise at 70mph, or at least not louder than the engine! As I have said before I very much hope I get the chance to try my landy in these conditions as this will be my virgin winter in her!
Got it in one , the driver is the usual biggest limiting factor , although ground clearance is the final arbiter , unless you have a plough on the front (and 3 locked diffs)
Thing is people with little or no experience of driving in snow see a bit of snow on the ground, think 'ohh, this looks like fun' and get themselves and others in trouble. It was the same with the flood water. It really doesn't matter how 'tricked up' you Land Rover is you can't defeat the laws of physics. Your tred will get clogged, you will hit patches of soft snow on compacted snow and ice - probably on a corner and probably when someone is coming the other way, You will break through frozen puddles which will throw frozen water on your screen which will freeze on contact - and probably while driving into low sun, and you will come across lots of other drivers, who, while trying their best to cope with the conditions will act in an unpredictable way. You just need to apply common sense and your best judgment. Otherwise you will end up damaging your truck, causing an accident or find yourself in a ditch looking like a bit of a ****. I have driven across deserts and in the Arctic and nothing beats common sense when trying to stay out of trouble.
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Although I have never owned a land rover before during the snow this does not mean I have never drove in the snow. Having owned a shogun and being an Hgv driver means coping with adverse conditions. I have to agree it is down to the driver to control the vehicle however I hope the land rover will be able to get going easier than most vehicles.
You wont be dissapointed there, and a lot better than a 44tonne artic , of which a few have been helped by my 110
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So we've said what not to do.. how about what to do. What are the tips for driving in snow, ice, blizzard conditions in a landy?
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Vc are quite good for snow on gaylanders and rangies. Difflock is quite useful. Then the standard driving tips apply plenty of space /time betwen vehicles. Allow plenty of stopping distance use the gears instead of brakes.
Studded Tyres aren't legal in the UK.
I've gone with an Extreme Mud & a Winter set for the Landy.
Summer & Winter sets for both my cars. Fortunately I can store the sets not being used at my work, otherwise the house would look like a tyre shop.
Once you've got over the initial outlay for another set it's no more expensive to have winter tyres as well, after all you're only wearing one set at a time.
I rescued cars including a Police car last time it snowed, where a Police Shogun with BFG A/T's fitted had tried and failed, it could just about get up the hill by itself, let alone tow anything. My Landy on Winter Tyres towed the cars no problem, the extra grip from a winter tyre is incredible.
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Have to agree, my wife drives a golf and when there is bad snow it is just parked up as the wide tyres make it useless in the snow.
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same here, 225/45/r17s are feckin useless. I've just ebayed a couple of 16 wheels and going to try sticking on 205/55r16s winters. Should come tomorrow.. which is great because it's thick ice around here and we are due snow tonight.
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You got that right Them coopers in AT3 best out there. Have run the AT2,s for years, snow,ice, mud,highway not a problem and get 60-70k miles a set with rotation every 6k miles. And we driver through alot more snow and ice than them Brits in a years time.
They can get them in the UK
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Slow down, take corners slower, give yourself more braking distance( take twice the distance to stop or more) Apply steady pressure to brakes, panic stop will get you in trouble. Increase distance between car in front. Give your self more time to your destination.
Biggest disadvantage is they are really 2 wheel drive, one tyre on either corner, not true 4 wheel drive giving over confidence to drivers. Most Us vehicles have a slip lock rear ends.
