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Snow chains.

Discussion in 'General Land Rover Forum' started by dieseldog69, Apr 17, 2019.

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  1. dieseldog69

    dieseldog69 Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    Look at it like this, how much is the fine for not having them? Then look at the cost of cheapie chains as a "get you by" and then the cost of a tow truck when they fall to bits.

    £400 starts to sound rather cheap when the fines can be the same and a tow truck can cost you the double and then some in the inconvenience of not getting where you are going.
     
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    I agree, we would rather at least to start on the right side of the law:)

    For 4 wheels I did a quick and it’s over £500. But (check laws for Norway) we only require 2 wheels with chains here.
    But I guess now you have located you can check around for maybe a better deal, like when the sun is shining.
    Last time we were in Norway they generally ran studded tyres.

    As I said we cover all 4 for extra (not saying you need too).

    They gonna be heavy too, eat your weetabix before you test fit:eek:.

    J
     
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    dieseldog69 Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    I would rather have 4, minimum is 2 but I look at it as a bit of a safety blanket, if you has 4 and lose one then at least you still has the legal minimum requirement and can still keep driving.

    Reversable too so for sure they are heavy as a heavy thing can be, I'm guessing that they might throw the wheels outta balance too :eek: Best I drive sensibly when they're fitted :oops:
     
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    I prefer the 4 option, steering and still drive not having 1 or other and then find the back comes round to meet ya, or the corner turns into a straight through hedge:eek:

    Reversible? Don’t quote me but think that just means straight chain I.E no teeth.
    Marketing ploy maybe;)

    If you have chains on in anger I would imagine wheel balance the least of your worries at10-15mph.
    Although we have followed dicks at 40-45 on ifish tarmac and they got chains on:eek: cause they couldn’t be bothered to stop and take them off, soon backed away from them.

    J
     
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    Hi matey, unfortunately not sorry. That's more on the industrial side of forestry that I'm not to familiar with, sorry bud
     
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    dieseldog69 Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    Since describing you as a "lumberjack" I can't get this out of my head
     
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    ... My life....

    :D :D :D
     
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    4 is best. We spent a few nights up on the moors during the heavy snow this year and on the steep roads, we tried without and got no where, then with 2 and still got no where but with 4 it was a breeze. We even towed out another car with a set on.

    When you need them they’re worth their weight in gold.

    I was lucky as someone had come back from abroad, never used them and said they didn’t want them, and as I was looking to do Norway & Sweden I bought them,

    Advertise wanting to buy and during the year you’ll see them crop up now and then.
     
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    dieseldog69 Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    I need huge ones, I saw loads for 235/85 r16 and cheap but nothing cheap for chains for my size tyres :(
     
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    Mine were only cheap because I was lucky to get them 2nd hand. They’re normally £500+ new.

    What tyres do you have that are that large and are they snow tyres?

    If you travel to Norway between November and ( I think ) April without proper snow tyres ( ie stamped as such ) then you can face a fine as it’s illegal.

    Have you considered having a secondary set of snow tyres with a 2nd pair of good chains for the trip? Might prove to be cheaper than buying a new set of chains for your current tyres.
     
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    dieseldog69 Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    They are M+S rated as far as I know, will triple check tomorrow.
     
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    May be marked as M&S but should/must have the picture of a mountain. Check what the locals use.
    Have you searched for any users in Iceland? (There is a disco owner on this forum)They have big tyres but may not use chains.
     
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    M&S means bugger all tbh, they need to be specific snow tyres with the mountain symbol. Any aggressive pattern tyre will be useless in cold & snowy conditions.
    My insta turbos are m&s stamped but I wouldn’t go anywhere near snow in them as the tread is too aggressive for traction in snowy conditions.

    Nokian Hakka lt2’s are a good bet, consider fitting them to a secondary spare set of rims and carry a pair of snow chains. A good condition proper snow tyre and chain will get you out of most, if not all, scenarios.
     
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    Forgive my ignorance but does not the fitment of chains negate the advantages of 'proper' snow tyres o_O
    nb: the owners' manual of my RRC states that chains should be fitted to the rear tyres only.
     
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    It does, and on both accounts.

    It has something to do with brake lines.

    I was looking at truck tyres for proper winter tyres in my size, seems very expensive :(
     
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    Snow tyres are designed for everyday road conditions, chains are to be used in specific conditions in which grip is lost ( ice etc )

    Snow chains aren’t meant to be used all the time, only to get you out of a tight spot. Once clear, you remove them and continue on.
     
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    Thank you for your answer.
    I've never used chains on any vehicle but have been impressed by Autosox on the drive wheels of a Mondeo. The worst part is how filthy your sleeves can get from the muck under the wheel-arches whilst fitting the 'sox' :(
     
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    I know the feeling...I have pewag snow chains, which are made by an Austrian company and when fitting, you find yourself on your knees on the ice and snow although they are well thought out in their box's.

    You can tell this as when you're in need of the chains, the instructions are on a plastic sheet with gloves included in the kit...someone in the company remembered that when you need the chains, you're likely to be in a situation which requires some clear, large print, waterproof instructions!
     
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    Mind posting any links bud? I run that size tyre and wouldn't mind a pair of chains if we get any snow, just for fun really!! :)
     
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    Cheap ones https://www.tyres-guru.co.uk/snow-chain-product-detail?id=620398&width=235&profile=85&size=16

    Expensive ones https://www.tyres-guru.co.uk/snow-chain-product-detail?id=37018&width=235&profile=85&size=16

    I saw others on various websites but didn't book mark the sites :( only saved this one as they were the cheapest for the 235/85 r16 size :D
     
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