Small spray guns advice

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gstuart

gstuart

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hi

May i pick ur brains please

Wish to spray my door handles , windscreen lower plastic panel, etc where theyve faded from there original black and will be handy for other little jobs , going to change my front bumper later so that will also need spraying

Don’t want to remove my door handles as that would be a right pain , plus can’t stand the cheap plastic door handle covers, think they look tacky

Now having an air compressor have been looking round for some mini spray guns and wondering what u would recommend plse

My air compressor is a 50 x litre , 10 cfm 120 psi and have installed a water trap and pressure reducing regulator

Is something like this any good plse

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bluespot...650582&hash=item4b3a878808:g:~UwAAOSwiWValZmL

Don’t mind admitting I’ve never sprayed with an air compressor before , but wish to learn etc , have some old plastic panels to practice on

Know it will be more expensive for the outlay etc , ie spray gun, thinners, paint but can do all the little jobs around the disco and think I will get a better finish that just using a rattle can, don’t fandy using a large can trying to spray door handles

Always wondered why are some spray gun paint canisters on top of the fun whilst on others underneath plse

Know I’ll have to read up about what paint to use and how to mix it etc

Thks as always
 
keithcanfixit said:
HVLP devibliss spray gun , better quality, better finish unless you want a lot of cutting back and practise practise practise
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Many thks, will only be doing small plastic trim items in order I can learn

Wouldn’t go onto actual painted panels as I know that reqs a lot of skill etc

Will check them out, many thks
 
On small plastic parts good masking and cans are good and easy to use..spray guns need same masking but loads of practice in thinning paint and then lots of cleaning afterwards which is messy...and you can buy a lot of cans for the price of a gun and cleaning solvents..
 
keithcanfixit said:
HVLP devibliss spray gun , better quality, better finish unless you want a lot of cutting back and practise practise practise
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That's exactly what I have & I painted my landy with it.....
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kevstar said:
That's exactly what I have & I painted my landy with it.....
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Wow, looks superb and nice colour , imagine that took some serious labour to get that kind of finish

Just looking at those guns , how about something like this , would it be suitable enough to spray door handles please or does it produce a wide spray angle

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Devilbis...905105&hash=item4408227fff:g:-nwAAOSwfpBabQqL

Daft question plse, can I buy different sizes paint containers to put on the gun so could spray from a door handle to a front bumper please , can u change the nozzles to reduce the area for finer details

Many thks
 
The one in your link is a gravity fed gun has a 0.8 fluid tip set-up & will handle solvent & water based base coats, 2k clear lacquer & topcoat.
It's suitable for small & medium areas but not for large panels such as bonnets as due to the fan size & low material delivery you are likely to finish up with a stripey pattern!
I use similar Iwata & Sata MiniJets gravity fed guns for SMART repairs, usually 0.8 for the colour coats & 1.0 for 2k clear & 2k topcoat.
I also have a cheapie like the one in the link which I use for 2k primer.
For bigger areas I have full size gravity feed guns with 1.4 set-ups.
Go for gravity fed & leave the older pot-under-the-gun type alone.
Your compressor will handle the small guns with ease & I would expect it to just about be able to run a full size one.
I would suggest fitting a pressure regulator at the gun as this will allow you to control the air pressure at the gun rather than trying to work out what pressure drop you will get in the hose which is the case with a reg fitted at the other end of the hose. I have one on each gun. This sort of thing: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Air-Pres...572255&hash=item1a23902723:g:xX4AAOSw2xRYdodE
For paint etc be sure to get the Technical Data Sheets for each as this gives all the info necessary for the application incl pressure, fluid tip size, flash-off & drying times etc.
You will also need to research protective equipment for yourself.
 
For the jobs you are doing I'd use rattle cans.
Otherwise you will be cleaning and messing about for ages.
If you are going to use the gun then you need a good bit of work to go at or you will spend more time mixing and cleaning than actually spraying.
 
Bantam1 said:
For the jobs you are doing I'd use rattle cans.
Otherwise you will be cleaning and messing about for ages.
If you are going to use the gun then you need a good bit of work to go at or you will spend more time mixing and cleaning than actually spraying.
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Exactly what I said ...
 
gstuart said:
Just looking at those guns , how about something like this , would it be suitable enough to spray door handles please or does it produce a wide spray angle

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Devilbis...905105&hash=item4408227fff:g:-nwAAOSwfpBabQqL

Daft question plse, can I buy different sizes paint containers to put on the gun so could spray from a door handle to a front bumper please , can u change the nozzles to reduce the area for finer details

Many thks
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That looks very cheap for a Devilbiss & I'm suspicious.
https://www.spraygunshop.co.uk/spra...ull-size-spray-guns/devilbiss-spray-guns.html

Yes, you can change the fluid tips, you need the set which comprises needle, fluid nozzle & air cap & each set is a specific size, you don't swap individual items.
You can also change the pot to suit the job.
 
Ratae said:
The one in your link is a gravity fed gun has a 0.8 fluid tip set-up & will handle solvent & water based base coats, 2k clear lacquer & topcoat.
It's suitable for small & medium areas but not for large panels such as bonnets as due to the fan size & low material delivery you are likely to finish up with a stripey pattern!
I use similar Iwata & Sata MiniJets gravity fed guns for SMART repairs, usually 0.8 for the colour coats & 1.0 for 2k clear & 2k topcoat.
I also have a cheapie like the one in the link which I use for 2k primer.
For bigger areas I have full size gravity feed guns with 1.4 set-ups.
Go for gravity fed & leave the older pot-under-the-gun type alone.
Your compressor will handle the small guns with ease & I would expect it to just about be able to run a full size one.
I would suggest fitting a pressure regulator at the gun as this will allow you to control the air pressure at the gun rather than trying to work out what pressure drop you will get in the hose which is the case with a reg fitted at the other end of the hose. I have one on each gun. This sort of thing: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Air-Pres...572255&hash=item1a23902723:g:xX4AAOSw2xRYdodE
For paint etc be sure to get the Technical Data Sheets for each as this gives all the info necessary for the application incl pressure, fluid tip size, flash-off & drying times etc.
You will also need to research protective equipment for yourself.
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Many thks and some fantastic advice and information , will read ur thread abit more and check the links out

Thks again :)
 
Bantam1 said:
For the jobs you are doing I'd use rattle cans.
Otherwise you will be cleaning and messing about for ages.
If you are going to use the gun then you need a good bit of work to go at or you will spend more time mixing and cleaning than actually spraying.
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Shippers said:
On small plastic parts good masking and cans are good and easy to use..spray guns need same masking but loads of practice in thinning paint and then lots of cleaning afterwards which is messy...and you can buy a lot of cans for the price of a gun and cleaning solvents..
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Thanks so much guys, always most appreciated

Indeed understand where ur coming from, in making it worthwhile making up the paint and ensuring having enough panels to make it worth while , also have plenty of time on my hands and like to learn new things

don’t wish to keep spending £10 quid plus all the time on spray cans when I have the air compressor sitting there

Ultimately wish to do , door handles , windscreen scuttle panel, wheel arches, also front and rear bumpers , as I will be getting some later second hand ones , , would cost a lot if I used all spray cans

Wouldn’t attempt actual body panels as I would leave that to the experts

Another daft question please ie, if a highly experienced sprayer was using a can or a spray gun I would assume the paints used in a spray gun would give a better finish

Have some old plastic panels to practice on etc

Thks as always
 
I'm sprayerist, but I would think that for very small jobs like door handles, something like an airbrush might have been suitable. No good for anything bigger though.
For spraying plastic parts such as bumpers, I really would go for rattle cans, apart from being fairly easy to get the hang of using, the correct formulation for work on plastics can be purchased instead of having to get involved with mixing for yourself.
 
Ratae said:
That looks very cheap for a Devilbiss & I'm suspicious.
https://www.spraygunshop.co.uk/spra...ull-size-spray-guns/devilbiss-spray-guns.html

Yes, you can change the fluid tips, you need the set which comprises needle, fluid nozzle & air cap & each set is a specific size, you don't swap individual items.
You can also change the pot to suit the job.
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Thks, just noticed its being sold from Hong Kong

Looks like the originals will be out of my price range as I won’t be using it professionally

Will look at the other makes u mentioned , thks
 
gstuart said:
Wow, looks superb and nice colour , imagine that took some serious labour to get that kind of finish

Just looking at those guns , how about something like this , would it be suitable enough to spray door handles please or does it produce a wide spray angle

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Devilbis...905105&hash=item4408227fff:g:-nwAAOSwfpBabQqL

Daft question plse, can I buy different sizes paint containers to put on the gun so could spray from a door handle to a front bumper please , can u change the nozzles to reduce the area for finer details

Many thks
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You can get a touch up gun which may be better for handles ect then your only mixing up a small amount of
paint have a look at these…………
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bluespot...m=323104507912&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

The thing with painting is.… its all in the prep.... painting is the easiest part if your prep is cr@p then
your finish will be too & yes it did take a lot of prep but I build it & painted it from scratch so it gave
me great pleasure when I finished it.:D
I like to put a ghost coat on (very light coat) then build it up always better to do a few light coats than
one heavy one. I am not a painter by any means but I can get a nice enough finish.

Your compressor wont run a full size gun ask me how I know & btw I painted every panel
including the bonnet & had no stripe affect. :)
 
brian47 said:
I'm sprayerist, but I would think that for very small jobs like door handles, something like an airbrush might have been suitable. No good for anything bigger though.
For spraying plastic parts such as bumpers, I really would go for rattle cans, apart from being fairly easy to get the hang of using, the correct formulation for work on plastics can be purchased instead of having to get involved with mixing for yourself.
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Thks Brian

I wondered about those small hobbyist spray guns for the handles , as ideal due to there small size and little amount of paint req

Indeed used rattle cans in the past , when I’ve done some wheel arch trims etc with rattle cans it never really looks the same in comparison with it being done with a spray gun, assume then that’s down to me not doing it properly

Always taken plenty of time and care and followed the contour of the panels and not straight across, no runs , built very thin layers up carefully , yet still never looked as good

But if course know spraying takes years and years to perfect
 
You'll find they're also expensive but then I am doing it professionally.
The cheapie I have is an ebay purchase & I've had a play with it for colour, clear & topcoats & it does the job, but not good as the Iwata (LPH80) or Sata.
It's a Voylet HVLP gravity fed H-2000 1.0 set-up which I bought to use with primer.

Given the choice of rattle can or spraygun I'll go spraygun every time BUT I do use U-Pol's Acid8 aerosol etch primer on aluminium. Problem with cans is they can spit & you then have a blob to deal with.
 
kevstar said:
You can get a touch up gun which may be better for handles ect then your only mixing up a small amount of
paint have a look at these…………
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bluespot-Mini-Touch-Up-HVLP-Gravity-Feed-Spray-Gun-125ml-Cup-With-0-8mm-Nozzle/323104507912?_trkparms=aid=555018&algo=PL.SIM&ao=2&asc=52945&meid=419e53b5778b4d88adb122a5e46b4a34&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=12&mehot=ag&sd=292194254847&itm=323104507912&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

The thing with painting is.… its all in the prep.... painting is the easiest part if your prep is cr@p then
your finish will be too & yes it did take a lot of prep but I build it & painted it from scratch so it gave
me great pleasure when I finished it.:D
I like to put a ghost coat on (very light coat) then build it up always better to do a few light coats than
one heavy one. I am not a painter by any means but I can get a nice enough finish.

Your compressor wont run a full size gun ask me how I know & btw I painted every panel
including the bonnet & had no stripe affect. :)
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Thks for the link, would that be ok for wheel arch trims, , bumpers etc, Plse


As @brian47 was just suggesting about using a hobby air gun for the handles , which does indeed make sense there seeing it being a lot smaller and easier to get coverage through small amounts of multiple layers

Indeed ur so right ref taking time preparing the panels, I done some filler years ago on my herald and thought it looked ok until I put a primer on it, it looked aweful and realised how much time it takes to get it looking just right

That’s what I thought with my compressor but should be ok for trims, bumpers,etc

Yes that’s what I’ve also done , building up thin layers , but never mastered it with spray cans of the final finish , taken plenty of time and no runs, just not the same , assume the paint that u mix up is of a higher quality over spray cans or the way the spray gun is able to apply the paint

Ur landy does look awesome and bet ur really proud after all ur hard work,
 
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