*sigh* It gets worse...

Well what your short of is a microwave bed, me old fruit. 8 hours sleep
in 3 mins d;-)

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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:19:28 +0100, Dave Piggin
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Well what your short of is a microwave bed, me old fruit. 8 hours sleep
>in 3 mins d;-)

There is a psychological therapy based upon accelerated sleep, not
hypnosis, more a trance, deep state of relaxation. Can induce REM
sleep within three minutes.

I'm an 8 hours man myself - then I like to have a little nap.


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Mother wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:19:28 +0100, Dave Piggin
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Well what your short of is a microwave bed, me old fruit. 8 hours sleep
>>in 3 mins d;-)
>
> There is a psychological therapy based upon accelerated sleep, not
> hypnosis, more a trance, deep state of relaxation. Can induce REM
> sleep within three minutes.
>
> I'm an 8 hours man myself - then I like to have a little nap.
>
>

I need to learn that technique - I have sleep apnoea which means that I wake
up approximately every 50 seconds just to be able to breathe.

The result is that 8 hours sleep for me is around as useful as 45 minutes
for anybody normal.

And no - more sleep doesn't help.

Treatment starts on Friday - wish me luck!

P.

On or around Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:14:11 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>I need to learn that technique - I have sleep apnoea which means that I wake
>up approximately every 50 seconds just to be able to breathe.
>
>The result is that 8 hours sleep for me is around as useful as 45 minutes
>for anybody normal.
>
>And no - more sleep doesn't help.
>
>Treatment starts on Friday - wish me luck!

yer getting one of those juvenile vacuum cleaners?



AKA CPAP chamine, Continuous Positive Airway Pressure. cunning gadget which
blows air up yer schnozz, when it detects that you've stopped breathing, it
blows more so as to stimulate the breathing reflex thing. dead cunning. I
know someone who relies on it.

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I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)

Paul S. Brown vaguely muttered something like ...
> Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> On or around Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:14:11 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> I need to learn that technique - I have sleep apnoea which means that I
>>> wake up approximately every 50 seconds just to be able to breathe.
>>>
>>> The result is that 8 hours sleep for me is around as useful as 45
>>> minutes for anybody normal.
>>>
>>> And no - more sleep doesn't help.
>>>
>>> Treatment starts on Friday - wish me luck!
>>
>> yer getting one of those juvenile vacuum cleaners?
>>
>>
>>
>> AKA CPAP chamine, Continuous Positive Airway Pressure. cunning gadget
>> which blows air up yer schnozz, when it detects that you've stopped
>> breathing, it
>> blows more so as to stimulate the breathing reflex thing. dead cunning.
>> I know someone who relies on it.
>>
>
>
> Attaone.
>
> Unfortunately it's a clinical trial, so there's a 50% that it'll be set
> too low, but I'll take 50% of a chance over 100% of nothing.
>
> P.

Good luck ..

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On Wednesday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "Paul S. Brown" wrote:

> Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> > On or around Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:14:11 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
> > <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >
> >>I need to learn that technique - I have sleep apnoea which means that I
> >>wake up approximately every 50 seconds just to be able to breathe.
> >>
> >>The result is that 8 hours sleep for me is around as useful as 45 minutes
> >>for anybody normal.
> >>
> >>And no - more sleep doesn't help.
> >>
> >>Treatment starts on Friday - wish me luck!
> >
> > yer getting one of those juvenile vacuum cleaners?
> >
> >
> >
> > AKA CPAP chamine, Continuous Positive Airway Pressure. cunning gadget
> > which blows air up yer schnozz, when it detects that you've stopped
> > breathing, it
> > blows more so as to stimulate the breathing reflex thing. dead cunning.
> > I know someone who relies on it.
> >
>
>
> Attaone.
>
> Unfortunately it's a clinical trial, so there's a 50% that it'll be set too
> low, but I'll take 50% of a chance over 100% of nothing.

Reports I have from friends are that they are hugely successful, once
properly adjusted.

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was bitten by a radioactive spider."

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:14:11 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I need to learn that technique - I have sleep apnoea which means that I wake
>up approximately every 50 seconds just to be able to breathe.
>
>The result is that 8 hours sleep for me is around as useful as 45 minutes
>for anybody normal.

Have you tried Meditation? I know it sounds tree-huggy-hippy but
there is a weight of evidence to demonstrate quite positive results.

Probably won't help you sleep any longer - or better, but can help to
enable the mind to 'file away' stuff that usually happens in REM.

>Treatment starts on Friday - wish me luck!

Well, good luck, obviously




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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> > There's a story about some chaps changing a 101 gearbox in a motorway
> > service station some years ago which, I believe, makes our engine
> > change similar to replacing a flat tyre!

I once changed my oil and filter in a Tesco's car park in central
London. The road outside my house was at quite and angle, and this was
the nearest well-lit flat spot I found.

Cheers,
Aled.

Well what your short of is a microwave bed, me old fruit. 8 hours sleep
in 3 mins d;-)

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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:14:11 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I need to learn that technique - I have sleep apnoea which means that I wake
>up approximately every 50 seconds just to be able to breathe.
>
>The result is that 8 hours sleep for me is around as useful as 45 minutes
>for anybody normal.

Have you tried Meditation? I know it sounds tree-huggy-hippy but
there is a weight of evidence to demonstrate quite positive results.

Probably won't help you sleep any longer - or better, but can help to
enable the mind to 'file away' stuff that usually happens in REM.

>Treatment starts on Friday - wish me luck!

Well, good luck, obviously




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from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
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my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net


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On Wednesday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "Paul S. Brown" wrote:

> Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> > On or around Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:14:11 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
> > <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >
> >>I need to learn that technique - I have sleep apnoea which means that I
> >>wake up approximately every 50 seconds just to be able to breathe.
> >>
> >>The result is that 8 hours sleep for me is around as useful as 45 minutes
> >>for anybody normal.
> >>
> >>And no - more sleep doesn't help.
> >>
> >>Treatment starts on Friday - wish me luck!
> >
> > yer getting one of those juvenile vacuum cleaners?
> >
> >
> >
> > AKA CPAP chamine, Continuous Positive Airway Pressure. cunning gadget
> > which blows air up yer schnozz, when it detects that you've stopped
> > breathing, it
> > blows more so as to stimulate the breathing reflex thing. dead cunning.
> > I know someone who relies on it.
> >
>
>
> Attaone.
>
> Unfortunately it's a clinical trial, so there's a 50% that it'll be set too
> low, but I'll take 50% of a chance over 100% of nothing.

Reports I have from friends are that they are hugely successful, once
properly adjusted.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"History shows that the Singularity started when Sir Tim Berners-Lee
was bitten by a radioactive spider."

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:14:11 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I need to learn that technique - I have sleep apnoea which means that I wake
>up approximately every 50 seconds just to be able to breathe.
>
>The result is that 8 hours sleep for me is around as useful as 45 minutes
>for anybody normal.

Have you tried Meditation? I know it sounds tree-huggy-hippy but
there is a weight of evidence to demonstrate quite positive results.

Probably won't help you sleep any longer - or better, but can help to
enable the mind to 'file away' stuff that usually happens in REM.

>Treatment starts on Friday - wish me luck!

Well, good luck, obviously




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from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
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my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net


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