S2A - Stage 1 conversion

Hi All,
I'm just starting a new project fitting a Stage 1 engine and gearbox into a
2A 6 cylinder 109 Station Wagon. I'm hoping to keep the 2A bulkhead
(removable lower bulkhead panel) and utilise the Stage 1 propshafts without
modification.

The Stage 1 front axle is not available so the longer term plan is to modify
Range Rover axles to ride on the leaf springs thus providing more efficient
braking and cv joints.

Any comments/experiences would be appreciated.

TIA

Alan

"Alan Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi All,
> I'm just starting a new project fitting a Stage 1 engine and gearbox into
a
> 2A 6 cylinder 109 Station Wagon. I'm hoping to keep the 2A bulkhead
> (removable lower bulkhead panel) and utilise the Stage 1 propshafts
without
> modification.
>
> The Stage 1 front axle is not available so the longer term plan is to
modify
> Range Rover axles to ride on the leaf springs thus providing more
efficient
> braking and cv joints.
>
> Any comments/experiences would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Alan


I have stage 1 Axles on Percy, only other thing I'd point out is that
depending on what rear axle you have you may need to modify the prop as the
Sailsbury as fitted to the Stage 1 will have a shorter prop length than a
Rover diff'd axle.

Issues With the Rangie axle will surround the steering linkages fouling the
leaf springs. I'm told spacers on the leafs sort this but Have yet to see a
succesful modification. IF it was to work the vehicle would be lowered by
the hight of the spacer too yet the leaf spring retain the same profile so
more likely to foul on the ground etc etc.

Lee D

Take a look at http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/LR/GR_rebuild.htm
which has extensive info on repowering a 109.

I've also rebuilt a 109 to take a Rover V8 using the standard firewall which
had a very poor conversion done on it. I'm afraid its not quite as straight
forward as it sounds.

I did the following;
New engine mounts to centre the engine in the chassis otherwise the left
hand exhausts foul the chassis. Having right angled exhaust does not help
the engine breathe.

Cut out first cross member to enable the engine to sit low enough in the
chassis, I also did away with the fan and fitted an electric one.

You need to fabricate new radiator mounts which will sit in front of the
first cross member. You now need to modify or make up a new front grill. The
previous owner had a SS one fitted which was corroding all the Birmabright
it was touching. Never EVER use SS on a LR - you'll have nice SS but no
Birmabright left.

Move gearbox cross member forward by a few inches (I also had a 5 speed
Nissan Cabstar gearbox mounted upto the LR transfer box - a conversion which
was made by Marks Engine Adaptors in Victoria, Australia up until about
1995).

The cross member behind the gearbox - the one with the hole in it for the
prop shaft - the hole has to move towards the right of the vehicle by about
1" to stop the prop shaft fouling it.

The front drive shaft needs to be a double cardan joint as per the Stage 1 -
I was a cheapo and made my own by bolting two unis together. The angle from
the axle up to the front output is just that bit too acute for a single uni
joint.

I added a couple turnbuckles from the 2nd cross member to the engine to stop
it moving forward - common mod apparently.

Disc brakes can be fitted using the kits from Zeus or TI Console - not done
on mine. There is also a guy selling an ebook on eBay about fitting Range
Rover axles to a Series - measurements etc. I've not seen the book so cant
be sure about its contents.

- A few Landy parts on sale at
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAP...land4x4hire&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50
"Alan Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi All,
> I'm just starting a new project fitting a Stage 1 engine and gearbox into
a
> 2A 6 cylinder 109 Station Wagon. I'm hoping to keep the 2A bulkhead
> (removable lower bulkhead panel) and utilise the Stage 1 propshafts
without
> modification.
>
> The Stage 1 front axle is not available so the longer term plan is to
modify
> Range Rover axles to ride on the leaf springs thus providing more
efficient
> braking and cv joints.
>
> Any comments/experiences would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Alan
>
>

On or around Sat, 3 Jul 2004 06:01:32 +1000, "Roger Martin"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>New engine mounts to centre the engine in the chassis otherwise the left
>hand exhausts foul the chassis. Having right angled exhaust does not help
>the engine breathe.

doesn't that give you trouble with the transmission?



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"The boys are dreaming wicked or of the bucking ranches of the night and
the jollyrodgered sea." Dylan Thomas (1914 - 1953) Under milk wood

Thanks to all who replied both through the group and directly. I think I've
got enough info to make a start and can proceed with some degree of
confidence.
Alan
"Alan Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi All,
> I'm just starting a new project fitting a Stage 1 engine and gearbox into
a
> 2A 6 cylinder 109 Station Wagon. I'm hoping to keep the 2A bulkhead
> (removable lower bulkhead panel) and utilise the Stage 1 propshafts
without
> modification.
>
> The Stage 1 front axle is not available so the longer term plan is to
modify
> Range Rover axles to ride on the leaf springs thus providing more
efficient
> braking and cv joints.
>
> Any comments/experiences would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Alan
>
>

Thanks to all who replied both through the group and directly. I think I've
got enough info to make a start and can proceed with some degree of
confidence.
Alan
"Alan Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi All,
> I'm just starting a new project fitting a Stage 1 engine and gearbox into
a
> 2A 6 cylinder 109 Station Wagon. I'm hoping to keep the 2A bulkhead
> (removable lower bulkhead panel) and utilise the Stage 1 propshafts
without
> modification.
>
> The Stage 1 front axle is not available so the longer term plan is to
modify
> Range Rover axles to ride on the leaf springs thus providing more
efficient
> braking and cv joints.
>
> Any comments/experiences would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Alan
>
>