S111 brake adjuster kit

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Megalowmania

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• Feb 21, 2005

• #1

Has anyone tried using the BritPart brake adjuster kit RTC 3176. I must be
doing something wrong, because it's bloody useless. LR want 40 quid plus
vat and thats bloody shocking.

Cheers

Paul

 

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beamendsltd

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• Feb 21, 2005

• #2

In message <[email protected]>
Megalowmania <[email protected]> wrote:

> Has anyone tried using the BritPart brake adjuster kit RTC 3176. I must be
> doing something wrong, because it's bloody useless. LR want 40 quid plus
> vat and thats bloody shocking.
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
<shooting self in foot mode>
You're not doing anything wrong - the Britpart ones
don't work.

Use the Bearmach one....... which, courtesy Land Ranger,
we are unable to sell you.

</shooting self in foot mode>

Richard
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Megalowmania

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• Feb 21, 2005

• #3

beamendsltd wrote:

> <shooting self in foot mode>
> You're not doing anything wrong - the Britpart ones
> don't work.
>
> Use the Bearmach one....... which, courtesy Land Ranger,
> we are unable to sell you.
>
> </shooting self in foot mode>
>
> Richard
Thanks Richard, glad it wasn't me. I had tried all sorts of combinations to
get it to work. I've spent about 200 quid rebuilding all the brakes, axles
and steering on LWB, only to be left back with the original problem. I've
now ordered a Bearmach set on your advice. It's a lot cheaper than LR so
even if it doesn't work, I won't feel so gutted.

After all that work, the LR is supprisingly quiet compared to before.

Thanks

Paul

 

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mark

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• Feb 21, 2005

• #4

In message <[email protected]>, Megalowmania
<[email protected]> writes
>beamendsltd wrote:
>
>> <shooting self in foot mode>
>> You're not doing anything wrong - the Britpart ones
>> don't work.
>>
>> Use the Bearmach one....... which, courtesy Land Ranger,
>> we are unable to sell you.
>>
>> </shooting self in foot mode>
>>
>> Richard
>Thanks Richard, glad it wasn't me. I had tried all sorts of combinations to
>get it to work. I've spent about 200 quid rebuilding all the brakes, axles
>and steering on LWB, only to be left back with the original problem. I've
>now ordered a Bearmach set on your advice. It's a lot cheaper than LR so
>even if it doesn't work, I won't feel so gutted.
>
>After all that work, the LR is supprisingly quiet compared to before.
>
Why is a kit required?
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beamendsltd

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• Feb 22, 2005

• #5

In message <[email protected]>
mark <[email protected]> wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>, Megalowmania
> <[email protected]> writes
> >beamendsltd wrote:
> >
> >> <shooting self in foot mode>
> >> You're not doing anything wrong - the Britpart ones
> >> don't work.
> >>
> >> Use the Bearmach one....... which, courtesy Land Ranger,
> >> we are unable to sell you.
> >>
> >> </shooting self in foot mode>
> >>
> >> Richard
> >Thanks Richard, glad it wasn't me. I had tried all sorts of combinations to
> >get it to work. I've spent about 200 quid rebuilding all the brakes, axles
> >and steering on LWB, only to be left back with the original problem. I've
> >now ordered a Bearmach set on your advice. It's a lot cheaper than LR so
> >even if it doesn't work, I won't feel so gutted.
> >
> >After all that work, the LR is supprisingly quiet compared to before.
> >
> Why is a kit required?

Basically, the snail cams have become worn out/broken/genarally
knackered. Bearing in mind that brakes are a safety issue,
the only "proper" remedy, avoiding any dodgy welding etc, is
to fit new ones, which always (unless someone knows different,
in which case I'd like to know) come in kits.
The thought of a shoe comming adrift and jamming at speed
is.... scary!

Richard
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Megalowmania

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• Feb 22, 2005

• #6

beamendsltd wrote:
>> Why is a kit required?
>
> Basically, the snail cams have become worn out/broken/genarally
> knackered. Bearing in mind that brakes are a safety issue,
> the only "proper" remedy, avoiding any dodgy welding etc, is
> to fit new ones, which always (unless someone knows different,
> in which case I'd like to know) come in kits.
> The thought of a shoe comming adrift and jamming at speed
> is.... scary!
>
> Richard
Thats absolutely right. There were no knobly bits left on the snails , after
all , it is 33 years old. I'd adjust them and just days later the play had
come back. I never bodge a job, especially where safety is concerned, so
the only option is to replace.

Thanks

Paul

 

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Dougal

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• Feb 22, 2005

• #7

> The thought of a shoe comming adrift and jamming at speed
> is.... scary!


Here we go again - the terror brigade!

The cam just holds the shoe close to the drum and the only force acting
on it is from the shoe return spring. There is no risk of the shoe
coming adrift. Even if the cam does drop off it'll just drop into the
bottom of the drum and rattle about.

 

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mark

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• Feb 22, 2005

• #8

In message <[email protected]>, Megalowmania
<[email protected]> writes
>beamendsltd wrote:
>>> Why is a kit required?
>>
>> Basically, the snail cams have become worn out/broken/genarally
>> knackered. Bearing in mind that brakes are a safety issue,
>> the only "proper" remedy, avoiding any dodgy welding etc, is
>> to fit new ones, which always (unless someone knows different,
>> in which case I'd like to know) come in kits.
>> The thought of a shoe comming adrift and jamming at speed
>> is.... scary!
>>
>> Richard
>Thats absolutely right. There were no knobly bits left on the snails , after
>all , it is 33 years old. I'd adjust them and just days later the play had
>come back. I never bodge a job, especially where safety is concerned, so
>the only option is to replace.
>
Ah.
So, er, they aren't meant to be smooth then?
Kits you say...................

--
Mark Roberts

 

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Dougal

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• Feb 22, 2005

• #9

>> The thought of a shoe comming adrift and jamming at speed
>> is.... scary!
>

> Here we go again - the terror brigade!
>
> The cam just holds the shoe close to the drum and the only force acting
> on it is from the shoe return spring. There is no risk of the shoe
> coming adrift. Even if the cam does drop off it'll just drop into the
> bottom of the drum and rattle about.


I'll qualify that by adding that, if the cam does drop off the free
travel at the pedal will, depending on how worn the drum/linings are,
increase possibly to the point where the brake is ineffective.

 

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beamendsltd

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• Feb 23, 2005

• #10

In message <[email protected]>
Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> > The thought of a shoe comming adrift and jamming at speed
> > is.... scary!
>
>
> Here we go again - the terror brigade!
>
> The cam just holds the shoe close to the drum and the only force acting
> on it is from the shoe return spring. There is no risk of the shoe
> coming adrift. Even if the cam does drop off it'll just drop into the
> bottom of the drum and rattle about.
>

Who said anything about the cam comming off?

Richard
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Megalowmania

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• Feb 23, 2005

• #11

beamendsltd wrote:

> <shooting self in foot mode>
> You're not doing anything wrong - the Britpart ones
> don't work.
>
> Use the Bearmach one....... which, courtesy Land Ranger,
> we are unable to sell you.
>
> </shooting self in foot mode>
>
> Richard

Richard, should the Bearmach one look the same and have the same components
as the BritPart one ? because they do.

I haven't tried fitting them yet ( bit cold and wet ) but I will report back
when I do. There seems to be a few people here who have smooth snails and
I'd rather they didn't waste money on BritPart crap if they dont have to.

Cheers

Paul

 

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beamendsltd

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• Feb 23, 2005

• #12

In message <[email protected]>
Megalowmania <[email protected]> wrote:

> beamendsltd wrote:
>
> > <shooting self in foot mode>
> > You're not doing anything wrong - the Britpart ones
> > don't work.
> >
> > Use the Bearmach one....... which, courtesy Land Ranger,
> > we are unable to sell you.
> >
> > </shooting self in foot mode>
> >
> > Richard
>
> Richard, should the Bearmach one look the same and have the same components
> as the BritPart one ? because they do.
>
> I haven't tried fitting them yet ( bit cold and wet ) but I will report back
> when I do. There seems to be a few people here who have smooth snails and
> I'd rather they didn't waste money on BritPart crap if they dont have to.
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>

They look the similar - without getting everything out of the bags! The
main difference that is immediately apparent is that the bolts in
the Bearmach kit have yellow thread lock on them. They have different
instruction leaflets and the Bearmach are packed in a sort of display
box - so I'd say they are definately from different manufacturers.
If you really want me to, I'll take some photo's, but the camera is
having a little holiday until Saturday!

Richard
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Austin Shackles

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• Feb 23, 2005

• #13

On or around Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:44:23 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>In message <[email protected]>
> Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> > The thought of a shoe comming adrift and jamming at speed
>> > is.... scary!
>>
>>
>> Here we go again - the terror brigade!
>>
>> The cam just holds the shoe close to the drum and the only force acting
>> on it is from the shoe return spring. There is no risk of the shoe
>> coming adrift. Even if the cam does drop off it'll just drop into the
>> bottom of the drum and rattle about.
>>
>
>Who said anything about the cam comming off?

I had one on the 110, ISTR. Made a new cam and welded it on.
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"There are three sorts of people in the world - those who can count,
and those who can't" (Anon)

 

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Megalowmania

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• Feb 23, 2005

• #14

beamendsltd wrote:


> They look the similar - without getting everything out of the bags! The
> main difference that is immediately apparent is that the bolts in
> the Bearmach kit have yellow thread lock on them. They have different
> instruction leaflets and the Bearmach are packed in a sort of display
> box - so I'd say they are definately from different manufacturers.
> If you really want me to, I'll take some photo's, but the camera is
> having a little holiday until Saturday!
>
> Richard
No that's fine Richard. The kit I have is as you describe. The snail cams
seem somewhat heavier than the BritPart, it just looks the same. It also
came in a two piece plastic display type box as you say, so that must be
right.

I report back with results either way. At least then its on google for other
owners to look at.

Cheers

Paul