RRC 200TDi Auto - Too slow?

Holmesy · Apr 16, 2013

Bit of an odd question, but, I'd like your opinion on something... Are RRC 200TDi Autos impractically slow? Im looking to do some light-medium off-roading, towing and commuting. My American Mrs will also use it for shopping runs, etc (part of the reason for buying an auto).

Im used to a modern diesel, which I appreciate will be much faster, but I dont want the RRC to drive me totally nuts cos its stupidly sluggish

brian47 · Apr 16, 2013

Introductions might help.

Stupid question ... maybe, but the transfer box hasn't been shifted to low ratio and left there?

bencorkill · Apr 16, 2013

Just get a v8 lpg

Holmesy · Apr 16, 2013

Right, I havent bought it yet. Its a theoretical question. Ive driven 200tdis and other stuff like that in the past, but never an auto.

Hello to everyone BTW Im new to LandyZone J

Spunka · Apr 16, 2013

A perfectly sensible question to ask if thinking of buying one,
I dont know the answer sorry

martin1512 · Apr 16, 2013

I must admit that a 200tdi auto is not exactly rapid. My wife has one and compared to my 110 it accelerates like a sedated snail. 110bhp in a 2 ton vehicle with a power sapping 4 speed auto is not a recipe for speed.

owl · Apr 16, 2013

It seems to me one of the problems is that the stall speed of the torque converter is lower than the spool up speed of the turbo. on a frosty morning they won't go up a kerb ih high range.
I would still have one though, best thing is teach the other half how to drive a manual.

martin1512 · Apr 16, 2013

owl said:
It seems to me one of the problems is that the stall speed of the torque converter is lower than the spool up speed of the turbo. on a frosty morning they won't go up a kerb ih high range.
I would still have one though, best thing is teach the other half how to drive a manual.

Yes, that is a problem, if you have an auto for off roading, you will find you have to use low range a lot more than on a manual.

Holmesy · Apr 16, 2013

Ok, so what sort of cruising speed are we talking? Is towing a no-no?

Thanks to everyone.

martin1512 · Apr 16, 2013

Holmesy said:
Ok, so what sort of cruising speed are we talking? Is towing a no-no?

Thanks to everyone.

Cruising and towing are fine, same as a manual. The main difference is in acceleration. The auto will cruise at 70 and tow at 60 without any probs. It just takes quite a while to reach those speeds.

brian47 · Apr 16, 2013

owl said:
I would still have one though, best thing is teach the other half how to drive a manual.

Mrs Holmesy is a Merkin.
To you and me it's a manual but to Mrs Holmesy it's a stick-shift

Holmesy · Apr 17, 2013

Ah, drove that 200tdi auto today. Seemed to go ok. Bit sluggiesh around 40, but didn't really give it a chance to warm up totally.
Do RRC tdi's usually have an electric vacume pumps for the breaks?

jamesmartin · Apr 17, 2013

Holmesy said:
Ah, drove that 200tdi auto today. Seemed to go ok. Bit sluggiesh around 40, but didn't really give it a chance to warm up totally.
Do RRC tdi's usually have an electric vacume pumps for the breaks?

no normally a vane pump on the side of the engine just behind injection pump

Holmesy · Apr 17, 2013

It's not a factory conversion. Would that explain it?

jamesmartin · Apr 17, 2013

possibly ,you mean its not originally rrc 200 tdi ,you can tweak pumps
http://www.landroverweb.com/Pdf-files/Tuning_Land_Rover_Tdi_engines_Rev_2.pdf

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