registered in 68 but new chasis and engine. Tax Free??

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David7richards

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Been looking at Landys, and seen plenty of Series IIA advertised as having free road tax as pre-Jan 73, despite new ganvanised chassis, suspension and unleaded head engine work etc....

Is this legit?
If not, then does the MOT tester pick this up?

I want to buy a road tax free, but not want to get caught out later!

Cheers,

David
 
I want the Landy. Will not pay road tax if I do not have to. Do not want to get hit with a road tax evasion charge later because I have not been paying when I should have been. So dare I buy a modded pre-73 and continue not paying tax just because the ebay advert says I don't have to?
 
that is bull. tax exemption works on a points system. if you change the engine for a different one, then you lose points as with suspension, transmission, and chassis. as long as these parts are changed with new for old and not uprated then you retain your exemption. obviously an unleaded cylinder head is not classed as an upgraded engine
 
As Yella says ^^^^^

You have to maintain a minimunumber of points to retain the tax exemption class and the plate (ie you get put on a Q). Chassis, axles, gearbox, suspension, engine all count towards the points. body work doesn't

Can't remember offhand the point value for each but will look for it later (unless I forget and start drinking)
 
If your v5 sais 1968, and your V5 matches your chassis plate, its tax exempt whatever is done to it! hope this helps!


Er, NO, if you muck around to much with it it will lose its exempt status,it works on a point system. I think you start off with fourteen points and you must have eight remaining to still qualify for tax exempt i.e. major chassis work- three points deducted, power steering-one point deducted, Disc brakes-one point per axle deducted, Axles-one point per axle and soforth. Before you know it, you've NEARLY built a defender but still have to pay road tax!!
 
Hi all the info you need is @
Registering a radically altered vehicle : Directgov - Motoring

The following values will be allocated to the major components used:
  • chassis or body shell (body and chassis as one unit - monocoque ie direct replacement from the manufacturer) (original or new) = 5 points
  • suspension = 2 points
  • axles = 2 points
  • transmission = 2 points
  • steering assembly = 2 points
  • engine = 1 point

Where there is evidence that two vehicles have been welded together to form one (ie 'cut and shut') a 'Q' mark will be allocated. ESVA, SVA or MSVA will be required.

as long as you replace parts with same spec as the origonal it's classed as a repair, like a new galv chassie as long as it's for that car it's a repair.
hope this helps
 
Thank you very much Guys.

I am pleased to read that new for old is classed as a repair, so i do not need to worry about the points as long as it is not upgrading.

Cheers,

David
 
Looking for tax exemption vehicles is nothing to do with the MOT, all we do is "log" in the chassis number and reg number and VOSA's records tell us the date of registration and what criteria we have to test for.
 
New member here:

I have a very real tale to tell about this subject.
A few years ago I decided on a whim that I would try to get an age-related plate for my Land Rover which got de-mobbed on a J plate. The chaos that ensued was a complete nightmare.

My registration documet's recorded VIN was different to that on my VIN plate. I had never successfully uncovered the number on the front spring hanger and promptly forgot the whole idea anyway. So when this little issue came up at the DVLA, it was like being trapped in a bank vault with all the alarms going off. The next thing I know I've got the Police crawling all over my Landy having warned me that they would confiscate it etc...

I also had threats of prosecution relating to TAX evasion, driving a 'stolen' vehicle, failing to do this or that etc..
At the very least it was looking like I'd need a Q Plate, Q Test and then be doomed to £rd party insurance etc.

The fortunate thing was that the cops found my VIN number on the chassis which matched the VIN plate. I was so ****ed off by all this that I decided to change the rotten chassis anyway.

That's when another problem cropped up. my dream of changing it into a coiler were shattered when i found that it would have to be changed like for like to remain Tax Exempt and would have to be a new chassis. A second hand chassis would make for an instant Q plate requirement.

To add insult to injury, i drove to the DVLA to get my new age related plate. The same Nazi was behind the counter and was smiling. "Here's your new number", he said. " brought it with you? ". I pointed it out in the car park.
" You'll not be driving it home then until you get your new plates!"

What an arse! I had my baby son with me at the time and was left stranded.

So please beware, there are a lot of illegal 'Tax Exempt' vehicles out there that can cause you a lot of heartaches. Even the ones like my legal one can cause you heartaches because the law will want to throw the book at you if they catch you.
 
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