Recommend me some tyres...

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Hard-Drive

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Time for new boots for the 110. The wish list...

-265/75/16, need to be big to fill the arches convincingly (but not silly, I do run 30mm spacers as the 100 has drum brakes on the back and Boost alloys

-The right balance of abilities...99% of my miles will be on-road, however I do want to be able to tow a heavy trailer across a muddy field if needed, and be able to get anywhere in the snow. There may be the odd bit of laning or hopefully non-damaging pay & play, but nothing in really extreme bonnet deep gloop. Certainly no more aggressive than BFG MT pattern...possibly a bit more road/AT bias migh be sensible if I'm honest with what the vehicle gets used for (even though in my mind it's Camel Trophy ready!)

-Road friendly, no OTT tyre drone, or real speed sapping pattern. My 110 has a Disco 2 transfer box and a good strong 200Tdi and cruised very well at speed on a previous set of road tyres, I don't want to compromise this too much, or have something that lets go quickly in the wet, or arrive in Scotland with bleeding ears.

-Wear/mileage isn't much of a concern, the 110 is a toy, and does not do lots of miles.

-Good value...I don't necessarily mean "the cheapest" but I don't want to pay premium prices if a lesser name will deliver 95% of the goods for 60% of the cost

-Undecided on whether I'd be quite happy on remoulds or whether an all new tyre is what I want...open to advice!

-Supplied, fitted and balanced by the same outfit, ideally not too far from Rugby.

-I need five in all

Over to you guys and girls! Thanks.
 
+1 for the General Garbber AT2's I have been running them for two years since I came back from a Morocco trip and saw the others using them. They stood up well in the desert sand. They are good in the wet, quiet, and good mileage.Where I live we are normally in the snow line for a good month or two. They work well in the snow.
 
I have Continental Cross Contacts on mine, size from memory is 235/85R16

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Retroanaconda said:
BFG AT. Not tried the new version yet, but the old ones are about the best all-round tyre out there.
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Yet split opinions. As they are rubbish on road and off road and really aren't designed to work anywhere well in the UK.

Arguably one of the worst AT tyres to spend your hard earned on. --IMO
 
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Op, if you want a good all round tyre, you want something with sipes in. These will make the tyres work in the wet, snow and ice. And still perform in the dry.

Arguably I'd say if you are mostly doing road miles, then get a good AT. And buy a cheap set of steel rims and some remould MT's for the times when you know you'll be off roading.

235/85R16 is a good tyre size to consider. This is also a standard size and is generally a little taller, but more narrow than a 265/75R16.

As a rule narrow tyres tend to work better in the UK off road. They will steer better on road and usually promote slightly better mpg. And you'll have less chance of rubbing on full steering lock.

That said, a 265 isn't massively bigger. But given the choice I'd go 235.

I will also 2nd the recommendation of the Continental Cross Contacts. They aren't the most aggressive tyre, but they will, by the sounds of it offer exactly what you are after and be a lot nicer than a BFG AT's on all terrains.


There are some MT's that are suitable to daily use and will be better off road than the AT's, but will be a compromise for any given road condition.


If you are wanting a taller tyre, then may I suggest you look at 255/85R16's. However choice of tyre treads will be limited, but this is a nice step up from a factory 265 or 235 size.
 
Have to be honest, and say the BFG AT KO2 is a great tyre on road. I put four on last month (not cheap!) and they're amazingly quiet at speed, considering how aggressive the tread pattern is. I haven't taken them off road as such, as I purchased them with a view to pulling a horse trailer over a muddy paddock in winter and the weather's been quite good of late.

I went for the 235 option as I find tyres too fat can sit on top of a paddock that has been compacted by years of traffic, but has a very wet top inch or two. The thinner tyres seem to cut through the wet layer, reaching traction below.

In the end, i guess it's personal choice, so you pays your money.....
 
Some great advice, thanks guys. For me, ability in the mud is more important than ability in the snow. Also good advice on the 235s...as I am running 30mm wheel spacers it does look pretty tight with some axle articulation on.

I'll certainly get some prices on the above suggestions...thanks.
 
I went from Continental Cross Contacts to BFG AT (old style) and they're a world apart. Car handles much better on the BFGs and there is no appreciable increase in noise or fuel consumption. Granted I went from a worn out set of one to a new set of the other but I still far prefer how the car handles and drives on the BFGs.

Contis wore out in about 30k as well which is pretty poor.
 
Guys

I've still not done anything about this yet, but I really need to now as I have a week in Wales camping coming up soon and there's no way I'm driving up there with the demented howl of my badly worn Insa Turbos ringing in my ears.

I know I said I wanted an AT tyre, but I'm being slightly swayed towards Cooper STT Pro. I realise that this is perhaps more aggressive than I was originally thinking about, however the truck is a toy, and I want to avoid two situations. One, getting stuck in a field or something and wishing I still had the Insas, or two, handing over a large amount of cash to the tyre depot, stepping back to look at my Landy and thinking "well, that looks crap doesn't it!" Remember this is not a daily driver, it's more of a toy. Ultimately, I would like to do a bit more off-roading in it too.

I hear what people say in terms of 235 over 265, however aesthetics are important to me. My friend recently had 235s fitted to his Puma 110 and every time I look at it I think it does look a little more Pussycat and less Puma. I also think that with the 30mm wheel spacers that I have to run due to my rear drums, it might just look like some strange Brunelian broad-guage experiment unless I fill the arches a bit more convincingly.

The really helpful tyre place said 235s are probably the best, but they do agree with me on the aesthetics. They say that according to the Cooper data, the STTs are almost as quiet as the Grabbers/BFG ATs. Although in practice they may be marginally noisier, in a 30 year old 110 it's all a bit academic, and they will still be a gazillion percent better than knackered Insas in every respect.

Any thoughts, and is anyone running a set of STTs and can give me some experiences?
 
Goodyear AT SA excellent tyres, armored side walls, great on road but have a slightly more aggressive tread than normal road tyres which are excellent in the snow and mud. I run 245 70 R16's.

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Never found fault with my Goodyear Wrangler AT/S. Perfect for the usage you described, and reasonably priced. The one that tore would've tore if it was anything else - huge razor-sharp flint sticking out of a verge.
No-one else use them?
 
discomania said:
Goodyear AT SA excellent tyres, armored side walls, great on road but have a slightly more aggressive tread than normal road tyres which are excellent in the snow and mud. I run 245 70 R16's.
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SWMBO runs these on her D1 - they are very good indeed - and just a little taller than the 235/70 R16's on my D1, which seems to improve the ride a little....

Can't comment on the mud plugging ability yet, but they seem happy enough on grass.
 
Hard-Drive said:
Guys

I've still not done anything about this yet, but I really need to now as I have a week in Wales camping coming up soon and there's no way I'm driving up there with the demented howl of my badly worn Insa Turbos ringing in my ears.

I know I said I wanted an AT tyre, but I'm being slightly swayed towards Cooper STT Pro. I realise that this is perhaps more aggressive than I was originally thinking about, however the truck is a toy, and I want to avoid two situations. One, getting stuck in a field or something and wishing I still had the Insas, or two, handing over a large amount of cash to the tyre depot, stepping back to look at my Landy and thinking "well, that looks crap doesn't it!" Remember this is not a daily driver, it's more of a toy. Ultimately, I would like to do a bit more off-roading in it too.

I hear what people say in terms of 235 over 265, however aesthetics are important to me. My friend recently had 235s fitted to his Puma 110 and every time I look at it I think it does look a little more Pussycat and less Puma. I also think that with the 30mm wheel spacers that I have to run due to my rear drums, it might just look like some strange Brunelian broad-guage experiment unless I fill the arches a bit more convincingly.

The really helpful tyre place said 235s are probably the best, but they do agree with me on the aesthetics. They say that according to the Cooper data, the STTs are almost as quiet as the Grabbers/BFG ATs. Although in practice they may be marginally noisier, in a 30 year old 110 it's all a bit academic, and they will still be a gazillion percent better than knackered Insas in every respect.

Any thoughts, and is anyone running a set of STTs and can give me some experiences?
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I can't remember what I posted last time.

Anyhow 235's are normally taller. So should 'fill' the arches better than a 265 in many ways.

The SST Pro's look nice. But I've not run them or know anyone who has yet.

If you want a bigger look, try a 255/85R16. It'll go straight on.

Other MT's you might want to consider.

Federal couragia look like a nice do it all tyre.
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And Maxxis MT tyres look nice and a good choice for 255/85.
 
300bhp/ton said:
I can't remember what I posted last time.

Anyhow 235's are normally taller. So should 'fill' the arches better than a 265 in many ways.

The SST Pro's look nice. But I've not run them or know anyone who has yet.

If you want a bigger look, try a 255/85R16. It'll go straight on.

Other MT's you might want to consider.

Federal couragia look like a nice do it all tyre.
federalcouragiamt.jpg


And Maxxis MT tyres look nice and a good choice for 255/85.
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235/85's and 265/75's are within a spit of being the same diameter
 
Indeed they are. If I didn't say so earlier in this thread, then I have in others. Although from what I've seen, in practice the 235's often end up being the taller of the two by a tad. But it depending on make and tread.
 
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