Recce-ing ahead of a group

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Paul D

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Mods, can this be made a sticky, might be important! I certainly think it's important right now!! ;)

Mostly the places we go on lanes are reasonably benign, and on Tuesday this week it was just so. We knew there was a ford down a lane, we'd crossed the same river on a green lane an hour or so earlier, but it was a single lane road. So the group waited while I scouted ahead to see what it was like, I'm experienced, happy to recce and 'know what I'm doing', but the rest is history, I was swept away.

The group knew nothing of this, despite cb's .. I must have panicked and gabbled, struggling to keep it upright I could barely speak and hold the cb. I eventually raised the alarm by phoning David during the moments when it was steady and stable, the cb had already died, being low down and susceptible to water!!!

He couldn't see me, though I could he and had to be guided to me, my roof was still sticking out of the water, it was only after he arrived that it finally dropped into the hole. If he hadn't seen me go, and hadn't known where to look, I doubt anyone would have found me for a while as I couldn't get out of the river alone.

So. the point of the post ...

I'd suggest that whenever anyone goes ahead to recce a part of the lane that two vehicles go, one to stay well away from any danger, but to keep the lead vehicle in sight as far as possible .. 'just in case' and to retain some form of effective and calm communication with the rest of the group.

I'd gone ahead 'cos earlier we'd all had to reverse out of a lane .. two reversing out isn't much harder or time-consuming than one and is so much safer.

Just a thought ...
 
Thanks for that Paul. Funny you should post that. On Saturday Zip did just the same thing, went ahead to check the ford levels before we all entered the lane as its hard to reverse a group out of. It seemed the right thing to do, will remember this next time.

He didn't go in the water though
 
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Thanks for that Paul. Funny you should post that. On Saturday Zip did just the same thing, went ahead to check the ford levels before we all entered the lane as its hard to reverse a group out of. It seemed the right thing to do, will remember this next time.

He didn't go in the water though

I'm also thinking of where someone goes froward to 'check the lay of the route' and maybe drops their wheels into a peat bog, or simply gets stuck in ruts and can't even open doors. If someone is always behind them and stays where the going is good, then there's always someone who can contact the group and summon help quickly. They could also maybe drop a line between the two vehicles, not to recover immediately, but to stop the situation worsening.

It's all ifs buts and maybes .. and it might not help many people 'cos not many get in such situations .. but it only needs to help save 'the next' one!

Just another easy to do added safety procedure.

;)
 
I'm astonished you guys aren't already doing these things if I'm honest, it's simple common sense. Over here it is common practice for us to do even the shortest recces in pairs, granted we don't have green lanes only tracks or no tracks but even crazy poles wouldn't do anything like this alone.
 
I'm astonished you guys aren't already doing these things if I'm honest, it's simple common sense. Over here it is common practice for us to do even the shortest recces in pairs, granted we don't have green lanes only tracks or no tracks but even crazy poles wouldn't do anything like this alone.

Probably mostly 'cos we're not in 'wilderness', my moments came on a normal road, next to a house and farm .. just single track so awkward to reverse out of .. it wasn't even on a lane ..

To be honest we often do, just don't think about it. I thought it worth mentioning 'cos it might help others.
 
Oh aye, I agree, I screwed up .. the water level was too high to see the proper ford entry and I now think I drove almost straight into the river, heading for the road exit that I could see after the ford .. the ford is actually to the right of the roadway, only by a few feet, but when flooded the road appears to go straight through! Probably didn't get to the ford at all .. but that's hindsight.

It's been campaigned about for years according to those who live there ... someone gets caught every time it floods .. there aren't even depth gauges!!
 
Mods, can this be made a sticky, might be important! I certainly think it's important right now!! ;)

Mostly the places we go on lanes are reasonably benign, and on Tuesday this week it was just so. We knew there was a ford down a lane, we'd crossed the same river on a green lane an hour or so earlier, but it was a single lane road. So the group waited while I scouted ahead to see what it was like, I'm experienced, happy to recce and 'know what I'm doing', but the rest is history, I was swept away.

The group knew nothing of this, despite cb's .. I must have panicked and gabbled, struggling to keep it upright I could barely speak and hold the cb. I eventually raised the alarm by phoning David during the moments when it was steady and stable, the cb had already died, being low down and susceptible to water!!!

He couldn't see me, though I could he and had to be guided to me, my roof was still sticking out of the water, it was only after he arrived that it finally dropped into the hole. If he hadn't seen me go, and hadn't known where to look, I doubt anyone would have found me for a while as I couldn't get out of the river alone.

So. the point of the post ...

I'd suggest that whenever anyone goes ahead to recce a part of the lane that two vehicles go, one to stay well away from any danger, but to keep the lead vehicle in sight as far as possible .. 'just in case' and to retain some form of effective and calm communication with the rest of the group.

I'd gone ahead 'cos earlier we'd all had to reverse out of a lane .. two reversing out isn't much harder or time-consuming than one and is so much safer.

Just a thought ...
Great analogy Mate and noted. I must point out that the main reason you should go accompanied is so that your Mate can laugh, point fingers and take pictures and get the rest of the gang down to do the same before they help you out!
 
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