Rear jacking points for 110

Cant find em. I'm using the ratchety,cranky jack that I assume comes with the vehicle.It's a J reg and I've used the ones on the front-under the bumper that fits the jack nicely-the tube end of the jack goes into the hole-but there doesnt seem to be any in the back.
I can see what I thought was a towing point-it looks a bit like a ring pull off a can and hangs down in front of the the rear driver side wheel.Is that it? Looks a bit flimsy if it's meant to support the weight of the car if it is.

should be two jack sized holes in the rear cross member.

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/140/1406.jpg two holes seen here

http://www.a2stainless.co.uk/stigfasteners/Files/90573_3 below the bumperette thingy

Your rear crossmemember probably rusted through and it was plated. When the crossmember rusts the rear jack points just sort of bend and rip and don't do much lifting. If the rear x-member was in this bad a state the previous owner has plated it which also disables use of the points (wisely to be honest).

I have had my 90 3 years and have only used the supplied jack once and that was because I was being lazy and I wasn't taking a wheel off I was just using it to lift the front end up to get all the fuel out the tank. I wouldn't trust it, the vehicle seems so insecure.

A bottle jack for normal on road punctures is what I use. If I got something offroad I would deal with it differently but would make damn sure the vehicle was solid before I start pulling any wheels off.

Ball sacks! OK,thanks. It looks like they've been covered over with the dreaded chequered plating. How do you get this stuff off? Would I just be better off investing in a farm jack or hi lift or whatever its called?

*edit* Thanks Discomania.Not as annoyed now you said that.

I would not take it off because its probabaly there for a reason, and if wasn't put there for a reason it now has one because the water will have got caught between the two and rusted it.

If your doing lots of offroading then yeah, if not get a decent bottle jack and keep it in the back, you can even use the small ones if you stick a good slab off wood in with it.

CEEJAY said:

Would I just be better off investing in a rear cross member or whatever its called?

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yes, before you get a shock when it fails yer MOT

^ Dont recall posting that...
Thanks disco. The jack takes a bloody age to lift it up as well so I might go the whole hog and buy a Hi lift. Cheers.

if you get a hi lift, make sure you are WELL AWARE of how to use it properly - get someone experienced to SHOW you.

They can be literally lethal if used improperly, and they are only just about stable enough for wheel changing - ive used one for a wheel change but only the once, i now carry a bottle jack.

As i said PLEASE make sure you get someone to show you how to use it properly.

boydy1989 said:

if you get a hi lift, make sure you are WELL AWARE of how to use it properly - get someone experienced to SHOW you.

They can be literally lethal if used improperly, and they are only just about stable enough for wheel changing - ive used one for a wheel change but only the once, i now carry a bottle jack.

As i said PLEASE make sure you get someone to show you how to use it properly.

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Yes mum. No seriously,OK I will. I thought about the hi lift becouse of it's other applications other than wheel changing and I'll get a bottle jack in the meantime. Are the handles long enough to not have to put your head under the car? The handles always look a bit short to me.

CEEJAY said:

Yes mum. No seriously,OK I will. I thought about the hi lift becouse of it's other applications other than wheel changing and I'll get a bottle jack in the meantime. Are the handles long enough to not have to put your head under the car? The handles always look a bit short to me.

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He he he tis jus i've seen how dangerous they can be, ive almost dropped my LR on things also.

With the bottle jacks, most have handles about long enough to reach an axle, just about.

Make a longer one with a welder, or even some pipe of the right length.

If you know a good breakers yard then go and nick the bottle one off a RR or a disco, they have a properly shaped head that fits axles nicely an all.

The safest way to use a high lift on a Defender (assuming you haven't got rock sliders or similar) is to get an adaptor to use the genuine mounting points, so you'd be back to square one!