Question for the painters out there

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mudmut

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I’m trying to identify/match the paint on my sons car and found on an Aussie forum the closest match to the original colour could be Ardennes green as the car’s original colour is not available anymore and the car was repainted in this country. My question is what is a Micatallic does it refer to the metallic flake size or something totally different? Pic of car below
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Common 'effects' materials in 'normal' car paint are:
Metallic, basically tiny pieces of aluminium in various sizes. Looks shiny & sparkly.

Mica, shiny bits which look like short lengths of 'U' shape, something like guttering. Various sizes & colours. Often referred to a pearlescent. Colour will vary according to the angle you're looking at it from.

Xirallic, this from wikipedia:
"Xirallic is an alumina effect pigment pigment made of aluminum oxide platelets covered with titanium oxide that shows a strong glitter effect with a distinct shimmering behavior."


Not unusual in some car colour formulations to have combinations of different Mica colours, different sized metallic bits, combinations of both & sometimes a bit of xirallic thrown in for good measure.
I expect your colour includes metallic & mica.

Applied as a base coat - the colour - with clearcoat over.

More here: Pearl vs Metallic vs Non Metallic Car Paint - Everything to Know (autobodytoolmart.com)
(I & some bodyshops won't touch matte finishes at all)

Might be an idea to take the car to a good motor factor in your area that sells car paint & see if they can do an eye match - usually more accurate than a spectrophotowotsit.
I have eyematches done - mostly caravan colours as I do body repairs for a local caravan company but the last car colour they did for me was my Cypress Green RRC. I do have the code for it but it had been painted before so best result will be an eyematch.
I give them a piece of the caravan/car. They mix, spray out a test card & send it to me for approval. If I'm happy with it they go ahead, if not they try again. If it doesn't work out then all I pay is the matching charge which is around £20.
Paint cost will vary depending what's in it.
 
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Common 'effects' materials in 'normal' car paint are:
Metallic, basically tiny pieces of aluminium in various sizes. Looks shiny & sparkly.

Mica, shiny bits which look like short lengths of 'U' shape, something like guttering. Various sizes & colours. Often referred to a pearlescent. Colour will vary according to the angle you're looking at it from.

Xirallic, this from wikipedia:
"Xirallic is an alumina effect pigment pigment made of aluminum oxide platelets covered with titanium oxide that shows a strong glitter effect with a distinct shimmering behavior."


Not unusual in some car colour formulations to have combinations of different Mica colours, different sized metallic bits, combinations of both & sometimes a bit of xirallic thrown in for good measure.
I expect your colour includes metallic & mica.

Applied as a base coat - the colour - with clearcoat over.

More here: Pearl vs Metallic vs Non Metallic Car Paint - Everything to Know (autobodytoolmart.com)
(I & some bodyshops won't touch matte finishes at all)

Might be an idea to take the car to a good motor factor in your area that sells car paint & see if they can do an eye match - usually more accurate than a spectrophotowotsit.
I have eyematches done - mostly caravan colours as I do body repairs for a local caravan company but the last car colour they did for me was my Cypress Green RRC. I do have the code for it but it had been painted before so best result will be an eyematch.
I give them a piece of the caravan/car. They mix, spray out a test card & send it to me for approval. If I'm happy with it they go ahead, if not they try again. If it doesn't work out then all I pay is the matching charge which is around £20.
Paint cost will vary depending what's in it.
Cheers for that, my local paint supplies don’t offer that service unfortunately and the last time I had paint from them the card looked good but the paint was a mile off. Unfortunately there’s nothing on the car I can take off so may have to track down a new supplier
 
Common piece for matching that comes in is the filler flap.
Not ideal, the bigger the better is often the case. When I worked in a motor factors in the mid 70s a volvo colour was causing our matcher no end of problems. Eventually the garage sent the bonnet in. The result was pretty much perfect.
Nuts & bolts would be a non starter.
 
Common piece for matching that comes in is the filler flap.
Not ideal, the bigger the better is often the case. When I worked in a motor factors in the mid 70s a volvo colour was causing our matcher no end of problems. Eventually the garage sent the bonnet in. The result was pretty much perfect.
Nuts & bolts would be a non starter.
The fuel filler flap on this is the rear number plate and the bonnet is huge, going to have to run it to a few places and see what the consensus is
 
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