P38 for the wife

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Nige

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The wife has an Audi A4 convertible & whilst it's a decent car, it's not a Land Rover. She loved my old
Trooper & I reckon we could get a good P38 Range Rover for decent money. Apart from the engine trouble,
any major problems to look out for, or just get a high specced disco?

Nige

--
Subaru WRX (The Bitch)

Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)

"If you tolerate this then your children will be next"


 
Nige wrote:

> The wife has an Audi A4 convertible & whilst it's a decent car, it's not a
> Land Rover. She loved my old Trooper & I reckon we could get a good P38
> Range Rover for decent money. Apart from the engine trouble, any major
> problems to look out for, or just get a high specced disco?
>

I'd have thought the Disco would give fewer problems and be more affordable
in the long run.

I did like my TD5 Disco (Base, upgraded to a spit off ES Spec) from a
comfort PoV.

P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
 
I was thinking of the P38 but went for a Disco ES after reading about the
issues with the 4.0 & 4.6 engines due to the ECU running the engine leaner
causing heat increases and causing the slipped liner problems ( I got all
this off RPI - and after seeing and hearing a mates 5.0 V8 they built for
his 110 I think they know their stuff!)
I know the 3.9 Disco can suffer the same problem but it's much rarer (
according to RPI - I'm no expert!).They do also say however if you have the
P38 engine and it's OK then changing the ECU for a modded unit will stop the
problem albeit with a loss of MPG.

I think the ES spec is excellent, feels and drives like a dream.


"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The wife has an Audi A4 convertible & whilst it's a decent car, it's not a
> Land Rover. She loved my old Trooper & I reckon we could get a good P38
> Range Rover for decent money. Apart from the engine trouble, any major
> problems to look out for, or just get a high specced disco?
>
> Nige
>
> --
> Subaru WRX (The Bitch)
>
> Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)
>
> "If you tolerate this then your children will be next"
>


 

Hi Lee, is the suspension standard on yours ?

I am looking change to originals ( on it since mid 96) for upgraded ( + 1")
I don't think I'll need to worry about the brake lines and stuff then, and I
don't want to alter the appearance that much.

Cheers,

Steve

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>> I think the ES spec is excellent, feels and drives like a dream.
>
> Ditto that! Very happy with ours.
>
> Lee D
>


 
You heartless fiend. (Have you thought of putting this on e-bay?)
--
hugh
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"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The wife has an Audi A4 convertible & whilst it's a decent car, it's not a
> Land Rover. She loved my old Trooper & I reckon we could get a good P38
> Range Rover for decent money. Apart from the engine trouble, any major
> problems to look out for, or just get a high specced disco?
>

Ok, here goes for a list of failure points.

AIR SUSPENSION DROPPING/NOT RAISING QUICK ENOUGH.
WINDOW FAULT MESSAGE
DOOR FAULT MESSAGE
BONNET OPEN MESSAGE
AUTOMATIC BOX ECU NOT TALKING TO BODY ECU
ALARM FAULTS
CENTRAL LOCKING FAILURE
COOLANT LEAK AT HEATER MATRIX (2 "o" RINGS, BUT A LOT OF TIME!)
MISFIRING DUE TO COIL PACK FAILURE (V8)
AIRCON CONTROL FAILURE.

In all honesty, most of the common problems on the P38 can be attributed to
moisture getting into various block connectors and causing high-resistance
contacts, bad earths etc.
Personally, would I buy one? NO WAY! Get a decent Disco and fit normal
suspension to it.
Badger.


 
Badger wrote:
> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The wife has an Audi A4 convertible & whilst it's a decent car, it's
>> not a Land Rover. She loved my old Trooper & I reckon we could get a
>> good P38 Range Rover for decent money. Apart from the engine
>> trouble, any major problems to look out for, or just get a high
>> specced disco?
>
> Ok, here goes for a list of failure points.
>
> AIR SUSPENSION DROPPING/NOT RAISING QUICK ENOUGH.
> WINDOW FAULT MESSAGE
> DOOR FAULT MESSAGE
> BONNET OPEN MESSAGE
> AUTOMATIC BOX ECU NOT TALKING TO BODY ECU
> ALARM FAULTS
> CENTRAL LOCKING FAILURE
> COOLANT LEAK AT HEATER MATRIX (2 "o" RINGS, BUT A LOT OF TIME!)
> MISFIRING DUE TO COIL PACK FAILURE (V8)
> AIRCON CONTROL FAILURE.
>
> In all honesty, most of the common problems on the P38 can be
> attributed to moisture getting into various block connectors and
> causing high-resistance contacts, bad earths etc.
> Personally, would I buy one? NO WAY! Get a decent Disco and fit normal
> suspension to it.
> Badger.

Really? Can they be fixed easily or is it major wallet surgery?

I really like the P38, but I really would want a diesel.

Oh well, maybe it is a Disco then!

I would look to spend around £10k, might even get a S2 for that.

Nige

--
Subaru WRX (The Bitch)

Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)

"If you tolerate this then your children will be next"


 
SII Discos can suffer the electronic gremlins in a bad way if they get wet -
the LR CAN bus system is not very robust!! as a mate of mine found out in
his W reg Td5, stayed with it for a year but had enough when the warranty
ran out and bought a new one - that's OK so far but it has not leaked --
Yet......!


"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Badger wrote:
>> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> The wife has an Audi A4 convertible & whilst it's a decent car, it's
>>> not a Land Rover. She loved my old Trooper & I reckon we could get a
>>> good P38 Range Rover for decent money. Apart from the engine
>>> trouble, any major problems to look out for, or just get a high
>>> specced disco?
>>
>> Ok, here goes for a list of failure points.
>>
>> AIR SUSPENSION DROPPING/NOT RAISING QUICK ENOUGH.
>> WINDOW FAULT MESSAGE
>> DOOR FAULT MESSAGE
>> BONNET OPEN MESSAGE
>> AUTOMATIC BOX ECU NOT TALKING TO BODY ECU
>> ALARM FAULTS
>> CENTRAL LOCKING FAILURE
>> COOLANT LEAK AT HEATER MATRIX (2 "o" RINGS, BUT A LOT OF TIME!)
>> MISFIRING DUE TO COIL PACK FAILURE (V8)
>> AIRCON CONTROL FAILURE.
>>
>> In all honesty, most of the common problems on the P38 can be
>> attributed to moisture getting into various block connectors and
>> causing high-resistance contacts, bad earths etc.
>> Personally, would I buy one? NO WAY! Get a decent Disco and fit normal
>> suspension to it.
>> Badger.
>
> Really? Can they be fixed easily or is it major wallet surgery?
>
> I really like the P38, but I really would want a diesel.
>
> Oh well, maybe it is a Disco then!
>
> I would look to spend around £10k, might even get a S2 for that.
>
> Nige
>
> --
> Subaru WRX (The Bitch)
>
> Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)
>
> "If you tolerate this then your children will be next"
>


 
>>>>> "Smurf" == Smurf <[email protected]> writes:

Smurf> Sounds like a damn good swap to me !!!

I'd like to see a photo of his wife before I agree :)

--
Andy Cunningham -- www.vehicle-diagnostics.co.uk
I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed
interstate commerce. --J. Edgar Hoover
 
>>
>>I'd like to see a photo of his wife before I agree :)
>>

I actually meant it sounded like a good swap ... FOR HIM, not for anyone
else ;o)


 
>>>>> "Smurf" == Smurf <[email protected]> writes:

>>>
>>> I'd like to see a photo of his wife before I agree :)
>>>

Smurf> I actually meant it sounded like a good swap ... FOR HIM,
Smurf> not for anyone
Smurf> else ;o)

Yeah, but I've already got the P38A. :)

The wife wouldn't be too impressed if another one turned up, though.

Andy




--
Andy Cunningham -- www.vehicle-diagnostics.co.uk
"The meek may inherit the earth, but they don't get write permission"
-- Tanuki the racoon dog.
 
In message <[email protected]>, AndyC the WB
<[email protected]> writes
>>>>>> "Smurf" == Smurf <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to see a photo of his wife before I agree :)
> >>>
>
> Smurf> I actually meant it sounded like a good swap ... FOR HIM,
> Smurf> not for anyone
> Smurf> else ;o)
>
>Yeah, but I've already got the P38A. :)
>
>The wife wouldn't be too impressed if another one turned up, though.
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
No, 2 wives is not a good idea, at least not at the same time.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
In news:[email protected],
Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> blithered:
>> No, 2 wives is not a good idea, at least not at the same time.
>
> I'd wager it's much cheaper than having 2 P38 Range Rovers on the
> go... At the least a wife has to stop at half of everything.

I think you'll find that is half of what's left!

--
The enemy of my enemy is my fiend?

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
"StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hi Lee, is the suspension standard on yours ?
>
> I am looking change to originals ( on it since mid 96) for upgraded ( +
> 1") I don't think I'll need to worry about the brake lines and stuff then,
> and I don't want to alter the appearance that much.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve

Yeah ours is bog standard ES.... at least until I finish my current list of
projects :eek:)

Lee D


 
Just fitted + 1" on mine and it had 20mm spacers on it so I kept them - so
nearly a 2" lift - looks bloody great and handles well too. New tyres now to
get an extra bit of height. Now on to the engine!!


"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Hi Lee, is the suspension standard on yours ?
>>
>> I am looking change to originals ( on it since mid 96) for upgraded ( +
>> 1") I don't think I'll need to worry about the brake lines and stuff
>> then, and I don't want to alter the appearance that much.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Steve
>
> Yeah ours is bog standard ES.... at least until I finish my current list
> of projects :eek:)
>
> Lee D
>
>


 
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