P38A P38 FIP Repairs

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Henry_b said:
There is a solution to every problem.. :D
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I agree just asking a question.

All I am trying to say is my engine has had 3 FIP's if the quantity servo has failed in all 3 then so be it if not could there be an issue with the feed from FIP to the ECU?

OR if the QS is a separate unit not housed in the pump then where is it located so I can swap it out?

I can't help if I don't understand. We all started somewhere.

I have listened and agree it could be the QS but for a qs to go in all 3 pumps is unlikely?
 
Lukas018 said:
I agree just asking a question.

All I am trying to say is my engine has had 3 FIP's if the quantity servo has failed in all 3 then so be it if not could there be an issue with the feed from FIP to the ECU?

OR if the QS is a separate unit not housed in the pump then where is it located so I can swap it out?

I can't help if I don't understand. We all started somewhere.

I have listened and agree it could be the QS but for a qs to go in all 3 pumps is unlikely?
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We're all 3 pumps new??
 
Only one code you should be chuffed to bits :eek::confused:

New pumps.
Define ‘new’ lol

An old one from Skitt is a sure ded un.

Cheapies new are £1500 Bosch are few grand. QS is in the pump and not particularly serviceable. You could give it a go, you got enough pumps
 
RangeRoller dt said:
Only one code you should be chuffed to bits :eek::confused:

New pumps.
Define ‘new’ lol

An old one from Skitt is a sure ded un.

Cheapies new are £1500 Bosch are few grand. QS is in the pump and not particularly serviceable. You could give it a go, you got enough pumps
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Ha ha yeah sorry new is ambiguous

Pump 1 - was the original and is duff.
Pump 2 - completely refurbished that Ovalandrover fitted to test out.

Pump 3 - A mike skitt special but was the only one that the engine started with :eek:
 
For christ sake. The MIL lamp flashing as you come off throttle is a sign that the quantity servo is going home. It will get worse over time. The listed fault obviously happens on cranking. Clear it and see if it comes back. The ECU has no other way of measuring fuel flow other than feedback from the quantity servo position or feedback pot.
 
wammers said:
For christ sake. The MIL lamp flashing as you come off throttle is a sign that the quantity servo is going home. It will get worse over time. The listed fault obviously happens on cranking. Clear it and see if it comes back. The ECU has no other way of measuring fuel flow other than feedback from the quantity servo position or feedback pot.
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Fault goes away and comes back when cleared.

Delay on throttle response.
 
wammers said:
For christ sake. The MIL lamp flashing as you come off throttle is a sign that the quantity servo is going home. It will get worse over time. The listed fault obviously happens on cranking. Clear it and see if it comes back. The ECU has no other way of measuring fuel flow other than feedback from the quantity servo position or feedback pot.
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Watch the blood pressure Tony:eek::mad::D
 
RangeRoller dt said:
Well skirts one outdid ‘total rebuild’ don’t make sense to start so somethings wrong with that diagnosis. You have potched about since then though
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Has anyone actually challenged this skitt guy? I know datatek did, think we need to make sure people know to avoid him on this forum?
 
We do, is how we were able to tell you. I’ve not dealt with him, hopefully won’t, but you read a thread with his name you know how it’s gonna end. Seats he caught Data with iirc

Logic of putting unknown pumps on unknown engines (since it’s not run 100% yet) isn’t going to be definite. Too many unknowns.
Only thing I can offer is send me the pump with some inlet gaskets and I will bolt it on my known engine see how it reacts. As only changed part will be apparent if it’s okay or not
But I tell you this
I dont wanna do it, I gain nothing and risk everything. it would throw other faults for other reasons
I’m willing to bet if you put that pump on mine it too will then run like bag of bolts
 
RangeRoller dt said:
We do, is how we were able to tell you. I’ve not dealt with him, hopefully won’t, but you read a thread with his name you know how it’s gonna end. Seats he caught Data with iirc

Logic of putting unknown pumps on unknown engines (since it’s not run 100% yet) isn’t going to be definite. Too many unknowns.
Only thing I can offer is send me the pump with some inlet gaskets and I will bolt it on my known engine see how it reacts. As only changed part will be apparent if it’s okay or not
But I tell you this
I dont wanna do it, I gain nothing and risk everything. it would throw other faults for other reasons
I’m willing to bet if you put that pump on mine it too will then run like bag of bolts
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No I wouldn't expect you to do this. Like anything old if you disturb it opens you up to other issues. Considering mine has been partially rebuilt this was last thing I needed as I knew it was going to well but there you go life of having a project car. :D
 
Lukas018 said:
Ha ha yeah sorry new is ambiguous

Pump 1 - was the original and is duff.
Pump 2 - completely refurbished that Ovalandrover fitted to test out.

Pump 3 - A mike skitt special but was the only one that the engine started with :eek:
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That's the bit that worries me. 3 pumps and 1 of them runs fine on one of @ovalandrover 's cars? So how come no issues on another car?

Quantity servo is in the top of the pump. I had some photos on my old phone. It does get dirty and crud all over it. You can take ot out and clean it but all the caveats about moving the pump top apply and I think there's a bit that might need desoldering and then soldering back in but I have had a few beers and things are a bit foggy.
 
RangeRoller dt said:
We do, is how we were able to tell you. I’ve not dealt with him, hopefully won’t, but you read a thread with his name you know how it’s gonna end. Seats he caught Data with iirc

Logic of putting unknown pumps on unknown engines (since it’s not run 100% yet) isn’t going to be definite. Too many unknowns.
Only thing I can offer is send me the pump with some inlet gaskets and I will bolt it on my known engine see how it reacts. As only changed part will be apparent if it’s okay or not
But I tell you this
I dont wanna do it, I gain nothing and risk everything. it would throw other faults for other reasons
I’m willing to bet if you put that pump on mine it too will then run like bag of bolts
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Better to try it on someone's backup car or scrapper.
 
Grrrrrr said:
Better to try it on someone's backup car or scrapper.
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Sorry @Grrrrrr Ovalandrover's one didnt run on my car as it wouldn't fire up. The one that is in there now was one I got from skitt. My very old original one is duff it leaks and all sorts mate.

All 3 threw up the same fault so could bet all 3 qs were faulty which is just my luck :D.

The only that works (apart from dodgy qs) was from a con man, make of that what you will? :eek:

I need a few beers!
 
Lukas018 said:
Sorry @Grrrrrr Ovalandrover's one didnt run on my car as it wouldn't fire up. The one that is in there now was one I got from skitt. My very old original one is duff it leaks and all sorts mate.

All 3 threw up the same fault so could bet all 3 qs were faulty which is just my luck :D.

The only that works (apart from dodgy qs) was from a con man, make of that what you will? :eek:

I need a few beers!
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Did Ovalandrover's one work on his car? Otherwise, why did you bother swapping it?
 
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