P38 4.0SE 1997 - tiny problem - broken clip on the tweeter unit

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The drivers side tweeter unit on my P38 was not correctly located so I pulled it off to discover that the clip on the fixing tab has broken. Like many of these tiny parts, it seems difficult to obtain. Anyone know where they might be available??
 
P38 Monkey said:
The drivers side tweeter unit on my P38 was not correctly located so I pulled it off to discover that the clip on the fixing tab has broken. Like many of these tiny parts, it seems difficult to obtain. Anyone know where they might be available??
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Any photos to help?
 
Photo attached...of a good one. Seems a shame to get a complete (used) tweeter unit just because the metal clip is broken on mine.

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Western Slope Rover said:
For a P38 that's a minor problem.
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For any car it is a minor problem. But I don't agree with the insinuated low-reliability-P38 aspect.
My P38 has coil springs, so no need to carry a spray bottle of soapy water.
It has central locking but no remote locking, so no morning flat battery problems.
It has no sun-roof, so no need to wear wellies when it rains.
It has manual seats, so no sticking motors.
It has a simple 2-into-1 exhaust, so no complex under-body pipework issues.
It is a Japanese import, so no rust problems, and has a low-mileage engine and gearbox.
The tow-bar is powder-coated and fixed in place with stainless fasteners, so no sticking tow-ball problems.
There is no cruise control to fail.
It will no doubt still be running well when our sun is a white dwarf...
 
P38 Monkey said:
For any car it is a minor problem. But I don't agree with the insinuated low-reliability-P38 aspect.
My P38 has coil springs, so no need to carry a spray bottle of soapy water.
Mine is on air and has never caused me grief in more than a decade
It has central locking but no remote locking, so no morning flat battery problems.
Fit the correct receiver and no flat battery problems and how do you sort out "Engine Immobilised, press remote"
It has no sun-roof, so no need to wear wellies when it rains.
Water still comes in from the scuttle and of course the O rings on the heater pipes.
It has manual seats, so no sticking motors.

It has a simple 2-into-1 exhaust, so no complex under-body pipework issues.
Mine has a twin SS exhaust system, no pipework issues.
It is a Japanese import, so no rust problems, and has a low-mileage engine and gearbox.
Mine is a UK car and has no rust issues.
The tow-bar is powder-coated and fixed in place with stainless fasteners, so no sticking tow-ball problems.
I never remove the tow ball so sticking is not a problem plus SS bolts can be jammed by corrosion in the mounting holes which are steel.
There is no cruise control to fail.
The diesel cruise control is electronic and very reliable, never had a problem in 13 years.
It will no doubt still be running well when our sun is a white dwarf..
Not if it's a V8..
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P38 Monkey said:
For any car it is a minor problem. But I don't agree with the insinuated low-reliability-P38 aspect.
My P38 has coil springs, so no need to carry a spray bottle of soapy water.
It has central locking but no remote locking, so no morning flat battery problems.
It has no sun-roof, so no need to wear wellies when it rains.
It has manual seats, so no sticking motors.
It has a simple 2-into-1 exhaust, so no complex under-body pipework issues.
It is a Japanese import, so no rust problems, and has a low-mileage engine and gearbox.
The tow-bar is powder-coated and fixed in place with stainless fasteners, so no sticking tow-ball problems.
There is no cruise control to fail.
It will no doubt still be running well when our sun is a white dwarf...
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You're a half-full kinda guy, aren't you?
 
Interesting comments from Datatek - thank you.
I think there are uprated key fob receivers - but they are not currently manufactured - were they made for / designed by MartyUK?
I understand that all the LR originals, even the later ones, receive spurious RF signals and pass them to the BECM, which then continually tries to lock the already-locked doors, flattening the battery.
Is there any receiver, currently available, that really filters out spurious RF?
p.s. Still vivid in my mind is the memory of thundering along the A2 motorway in Spain at 80 mph through the morning mist, heading for the Santander Ferry last week. A very fine drive in a very fine vehicle.
 
P38 Monkey said:
Interesting comments from Datatek - thank you.
I think there are uprated key fob receivers - but they are not currently manufactured - were they made for / designed by MartyUK?
I understand that all the LR originals, even the later ones, receive spurious RF signals and pass them to the BECM, which then continually tries to lock the already-locked doors, flattening the battery.
Is there any receiver, currently available, that really filters out spurious RF?
p.s. Still vivid in my mind is the memory of thundering along the A2 motorway in Spain at 80 mph through the morning mist, heading for the Santander Ferry last week. A very fine drive in a very fine vehicle.
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The Mk3 RF receiver fixes the spurious signals waking up the BECM problem, can be purchased from a dealer at the cost of an arm and a leg and occasionally found on Ebay. The spurious signals do not cause the BECM to try and lock an already locked car, they just wake up the BECM to check for a valid FOB code. The MK3 receiver contains an 8 bit micro processor configured as a signal processor allowing only valid codes to pass to the BECM. Marty UK makes a filter unit that blocks spurious signals from early FOB receivers and so cures the problem.
 
Datatek said:
The Mk3 RF receiver fixes the spurious signals waking up the BECM problem, can be purchased from a dealer at the cost of an arm and a leg and occasionally found on Ebay. The spurious signals do not cause the BECM to try and lock an already locked car, they just wake up the BECM to check for a valid FOB code. The MK3 receiver contains an 8 bit micro processor configured as a signal processor allowing only valid codes to pass to the BECM. Marty UK makes a filter unit that blocks spurious signals from early FOB receivers and so cures the problem.
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Ah, OK, that is all really useful info, particularly the bit about waking the BECM. I have the photo that was posted a while ago with pictures of the Mk1, 2, 3 and will use that. Given the potential for an error message that requires a key fob press, it makes sense to be able to comply...
Looking on eBay, seems that units are marked with little coloured stickers:
No dot: Mk1, avoid.
Blue dot: Mk2 with metal shield, avoid
Green dot: Mk3, also identified by price of around £200 used, and £260+ new, this is the one to get.
I hope that is correct, please let me know...
Oops, drifted off subject (trim clips) but as ever in this Forum, have learnt more about my P38 and its typically Landy "features" (idiosyncrasies). Thanks guys.
 
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P38 Monkey said:
Ah, OK, that is all really useful info, particularly the bit about waking the BECM. I have the photo that was posted a while ago with pictures of the Mk1, 2, 3 and will use that. Given the potential for an error message that requires a key fob press, it makes sense to be able to comply...
Looking on eBay, seems that units are marked with little coloured stickers:
No dot: Mk1, avoid.
Blue dot: Mk2 with metal shield, avoid
Green dot: Mk3, also identified by price of around £200 used, and £260+ new, this is the one to get.
I hope that is correct, please let me know...
Oops, drifted off subject (trim clips) but as ever in this Forum, have learnt more about my P38 and its typically Landy "features" (idiosyncrasies). Thanks guys.
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Yes the MK3 is the one to get but if you buy off Ebay the green dot means nothing as it's easy to stick a green dot on an early receiver, get the vendor to open the receiver up before buying.
 
Just thanking Datatek for his comments - "BECM declining to cooperate unless you press the key fob" is very valid and has made me add back remote locking one way or another.
Always good to have a solution to any possible problem.
And, concerning longevity, no doubt in future we will all have fitted battery packs to replace the piston engines....
Thanks again mate.
 
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P38 Monkey said:
Just thanking Datatek for his comments - "BECM declining to cooperate unless you press the key fob" is very valid and has made me add back remote locking one way or another.
Always good to have a solution to any possible problem.
And, concerning longevity, no doubt in future we will all have fitted battery packs to replace the piston engines....
Thanks again mate.
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Buy yourself a Nanocom and use it to turn off EKA and Immobiliser in the BECM, then you can operate the car with just the key and no FOB if necessary you can still use the FOB after sorting the RF receiver but no risk of "Engine Immobilised press remote" problems.
Thank you for the thanks, not something that happens often:D
 
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