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"Karen Gallagher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ian Rawlings wrote:
>> On 2006-07-10, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I've a rather large aluminium project on the boil and will be wanting
>>> to avoid buying the stupidly expensive little disposable bottles if
>>> possible. Ideas anyone?

>>
>> Scuba divers use it, try dive shops?
>>

> Er, no. Scuba divers don't use argon, mixed gas diving is strictly for the
> professionals and is hugely expensive. Scuby-doos use compressed air or
> nitrox.
>


Oh yes they do :p
Divers use Argon for suit inflation, because of the differing gas density
compared to air, it keeps you warm longer.
(heat doesn't pass through argon as easily)

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Andy


 

"Nigel Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Karen Gallagher wrote:
>> But to clarify, it's out of the price range of most amateurs, hence my
>> earlier statement. I used compressed air for suit inflation & an extra
>> layer of woolley bear under the suit.

>
> I use Argon for suit inflation in the winter. I get it from Air Products.
> It's not expensive like helium (squeeky voices gas) but you don't want
> to blow a diving suit up with a helium rich mixture - it conducts heat
> so well. Once you've set up a seperate bottle you might as well use
> argon.
>
> Currently my ebay bought bodge for the P38 air suspension is partly
> blown up with Argon because that's what I had in the cylinder. As a
> diver the one thing I do have is lots of compressed gas. :cool:
>
> nigelH
> http://www.nigelhewitt.co.uk/stuff/gasfill.jpg



Hello Nigel, Fancy seeing you in here. :eek:)

I thought you had a bad starting Audi not a Landrover. :eek:)

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Andy


 
Fuzzy wrote:
> Hello Nigel, Fancy seeing you in here. :eek:)
>
> I thought you had a bad starting Audi not a Landrover. :eek:)


<perplexed> Never had an Audi...
I had a Passat that I destroyed by putting too many J cylinders in it....
I've had the P38 for two and a bit years now. It just about carries the dive
gear but I might need to upgrade to a 3.5ton flatbed if I grow any more gear.

The current project is a new Air Suspension computer. The current one sucks
but embeded computers are business here so once I have figured the light driver
system things will work again and it will report errors rather than throwing
a BSOD and giving up.

nigelH
http://www.nigelhewitt.co.uk/stuff/trailer.jpg


 
On or around Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:44:52 +0100, "Fuzzy" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Karen Gallagher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Ian Rawlings wrote:
>>> On 2006-07-10, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've a rather large aluminium project on the boil and will be wanting
>>>> to avoid buying the stupidly expensive little disposable bottles if
>>>> possible. Ideas anyone?
>>>
>>> Scuba divers use it, try dive shops?
>>>

>> Er, no. Scuba divers don't use argon, mixed gas diving is strictly for the
>> professionals and is hugely expensive. Scuby-doos use compressed air or
>> nitrox.
>>

>
>Oh yes they do :p
>Divers use Argon for suit inflation, because of the differing gas density
>compared to air, it keeps you warm longer.
>(heat doesn't pass through argon as easily)


Heat won't pass from a cooler to a hotter... you can try it if you like but
you'd far better notter.
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Austin Shackles wrote:

>Heat won't pass from a cooler to a hotter... you can try it if you like but
>you'd far better notter.
>
>

'Cos heat is work and work is heat, and that's a physical law.

Lizzy
 
On 2006-07-12, LizzyTaylor <[email protected]> wrote:

> 'Cos heat is work and work is heat, and that's a physical law.


So an argon suit reduces work?

Sold!

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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-07-12, LizzyTaylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 'Cos heat is work and work is heat, and that's a physical law.

>
> So an argon suit reduces work?
>
> Sold!
>

Ah, someone is not a Flanders & Swann fan :)

Karen

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just behind my shoulder, looking out for me ... only he's an imbecile" -
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On 2006-07-12, Lee_D <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do they do argon inflated swivel chairs?


Do they do compressed argon *powered* swivel chairs... I can think of
a few people at work I'd fit that kit to. Top floor, aim at window,
knock valve off.

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"Nigel Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fuzzy wrote:
>> Hello Nigel, Fancy seeing you in here. :eek:)
>>
>> I thought you had a bad starting Audi not a Landrover. :eek:)

>
> <perplexed> Never had an Audi...
> I had a Passat that I destroyed by putting too many J cylinders in it....
> I've had the P38 for two and a bit years now. It just about carries the
> dive
> gear but I might need to upgrade to a 3.5ton flatbed if I grow any more
> gear.
>
> The current project is a new Air Suspension computer. The current one
> sucks
> but embeded computers are business here so once I have figured the light
> driver
> system things will work again and it will report errors rather than
> throwing
> a BSOD and giving up.
>
> nigelH
> http://www.nigelhewitt.co.uk/stuff/trailer.jpg


Passat, Audi, It's all VW to me.
All I remember was jump starting the thing in Stoney car park for you. :eek:)
LOL at the air suspension woes.

--
Andy


 
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:16:52 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Do they do compressed argon *powered* swivel chairs... I can think of
>a few people at work I'd fit that kit to. Top floor, aim at window,
>knock valve off.


Oh yes! I can feel a new sport coming into being...


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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:07:44 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:16:52 +0100, Ian Rawlings
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Do they do compressed argon *powered* swivel chairs... I can think of
>> a few people at work I'd fit that kit to. Top floor, aim at window,
>> knock valve off.

>
> Oh yes! I can feel a new sport coming into being...


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9117827625709850815

Start about 4+1/2 minutes in.

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Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
 
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:35:22 +0100, "William Tasso"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> Oh yes! I can feel a new sport coming into being...

>
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9117827625709850815
>
>Start about 4+1/2 minutes in.


NIGE! Bring some CO2 fire jobbies to the unofficial would you?

I can feel a challenge coming on... ;-)

(If I can wait that long. We replace our CO2s each year - cheaper
than having them rechecked/filled. Can sort of see something
interesting for the neighbours outside Poggle Wood tomorrow
lunchtime!)


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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:21:08 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/771964

>
>One of those "written only for windows" things I'm afraid, but I get
>the gist!


It's only a pic, not a vid, and shows perfectly here on Firefox under
Debian and FC4.

"Auckland police could hardly believe their eyes when they pulled over
a vehicle to check its rego.

It wasn't a car, a van, or even a bike. It was simply engineering
apprentice Clinton Cossey taking his motorised couch for a spin.

"I was actually just down here relaxing on my couch, as you do at the
beach, and then I sort of thought there was a helicopter hovering over
me. I was like it can't be for me I better move on...as I drove home
it was following me all the way...then a police car pulled out and
three of them jumped out."

Just makes me reckon I should forward my plans for the great move down
under (EMB, convince me at Christmas would you - actually, convince
Charlotte).




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On 2006-07-13, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> It's only a pic, not a vid, and shows perfectly here on Firefox
> under Debian and FC4.


No, there was an associated video too, that wouldn't run, although the
mplayer plugin had a good crack at it.

> Just makes me reckon I should forward my plans for the great move
> down under (EMB, convince me at Christmas would you - actually,
> convince Charlotte).


I've seen a few similar stories on couches and armchairs in this
country, no need to go down under for motorised furniture ;-)

I saw a wooden boat on the A34 near Newbury once too, moving under its
own power. Looked like it had the innards of a Robin Reliant in it
somewhere.

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On or around Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:37:14 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:21:08 +0100, Ian Rawlings
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/771964

>>
>>One of those "written only for windows" things I'm afraid, but I get
>>the gist!

>
>It's only a pic, not a vid, and shows perfectly here on Firefox under
>Debian and FC4.


mind there's a video article as well, showing the couch in motion. Crashed
mozilla mind, but only after playing the vid.


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