OT: Spend a Penny...

Nige wrote:

|| You been to Leeds recently matey? It is rammed to the gills with fit
|| talent, posh flats & some serious money.
||
|| If yer ever up for dropping in, I'll take you round a few places!!!!
||
|| Nige

I haven't been to Leeds for around four years - since my Mum died, I have
had no reason to go. I will probably return at some point, just to have a
look at the old haunts. Deer Park, Original Oak, Chained Bull, Whitelock's
.... If I'm going up there I'll give you a bell and we'll chase a few down
somewhere. I sometimes quite fancy moving back to God's County, but then I
look at property prices, and decide that Pembrokeshire has an awful lot
going for it.

The Leeds I used to visit when parents were alive was a very different place
from the city I grew up in. All those waterfront developments, and a branch
of Harvey Nicks! What's that all about then? Eee, we used ter dreeeeam of
....

Sorry.

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On Mon, 22 May 2006 13:45:13 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>eBay Item: 8815654450
>>
>>I inherited a large number of bullion bags full of old coins following
>>the death of my uncle last year. One of these bags has now been
>>opened and I thought it may be a good fundraising exercise, given the
>>bag contains mint 1966 One Penny coins, to flog them off via eBay.
>
>can't help wondering why...

Why what? Why I'm selling them off on eBay?

Simple - I have over half a tonne of the bloddy things (all sorts,
ha'pennies, sovs, half sovs, half crowns, crowns, sixpences,
threpeniebitiites and the like). They came from my uncle - who was a
tad wierd (see: http://www.101fc.net/kent-2002/index.htm ).

He left a very ill, with Alzheimer's, wife - my all time favourite
aunt (we had a big family - East End thing, shagging was all there was
to do in the War...)

Basically, I don't need any more money and was looking for another way
to raise some charity dosh again this year (did just under 1,100 quid
last year - first time I've ever broken the 'Grand' so this year is a
bit ambitious really).

What else do I do with then? Sit on them? Weigh them in? I somewhat
doubt my children would thank me for leaving a pile of coins in my
will - 't cost them more to move it than they'd get!

This seemed a reasonable way to go I guess

>>ALL of the dosh will be donated to the Alzheimer's Society - quite
>>fitting really as my aunt is in the final stages of dementia and has
>>been living in a care home since my uncle died.
>
>I've ordered one, seeing as I was also minted in 1966.

And you have a little something extra (fna) as a belated Birthday
pressie


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of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

Mother wrote:

> What else do I do with then? Sit on them? Weigh them in? I somewhat
> doubt my children would thank me for leaving a pile of coins in my
> will - 't cost them more to move it than they'd get!

The price of copper at the moment means that weighing them in might be
more profitable for Alzheimers charities.
And you won't get bollocked for defacing coin of the realm.

Steve

On Mon, 22 May 2006 19:45:13 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>well, I can remember a packet of crisps costing 3½p just after
>decimalisation,

I can remember the Beano being 2d in...


.... I'll get mi coat an zimmer frame...

Richard Brookman wrote:
> I haven't been to Leeds for around four years - since my Mum died, I have
> had no reason to go. I will probably return at some point, just to have a
> look at the old haunts. Deer Park, Original Oak, Chained Bull, Whitelock's
Packhorse ? Is that still there ?

Steve

On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:20:47 +0100, Danny
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The day we went decimal a loaf of bread was 8 new pence. A year or so
>later I used to buy cigarettes with my dinner money, 12p/day, which
>got me 10 picadilly No:3 and a book of matches (they were nicer than
>No10 or Sovereign).

Woodbine - untipped (tips were simply a way of cheating you out of
baccie...) Course, then it all went Players Number 6 - yeuk :-(

>Prior to decimalisation, school dinners were 3
>shillings a week. This is in the inflated South prices.

Where in the South? I remember my parents complaining about skool
dinnerz going up to three and six - think they made my sister eat coal
instead...


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"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

Steve wrote:
> Richard Brookman wrote:
>> I haven't been to Leeds for around four years - since my Mum died, I have
>> had no reason to go. I will probably return at some point, just to have a
>> look at the old haunts. Deer Park, Original Oak, Chained Bull, Whitelock's
> Packhorse ? Is that still there ?
>
> Steve


It is, just like Whitelocks.

It's a ****ing amazing place now really. Makes Manchester look like chav central!!

Nige

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We might be going on a summer holiday, the Greece Ball rally!!!!

On Tue, 23 May 2006 22:06:05 +0100, Steve
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> What else do I do with then? Sit on them? Weigh them in? I somewhat
>> doubt my children would thank me for leaving a pile of coins in my
>> will - 't cost them more to move it than they'd get!
>
>The price of copper at the moment means that weighing them in might be
>more profitable for Alzheimers charities.

I think your math is a bit out. ONE bag of old Pennies weighs 9K and
contains 1,200 Pennies - that's £1,200 pounds by doing the current
auction - somewhat more than weighing in 9K of not totally pure copper
- even at todays over-inflated metals prices.

>And you won't get bollocked for defacing coin of the realm.

I won't be bollocked for defacing coins of the realm if I sell them
'as is' _or_ melt them down - they are no longer coins of the realm.

I am currently selling 2003 2p coins for £10 each which have legally
been (quite seriously) tampered with, as you know, and with the full
warrant of the Treasury as granted to the Magic Circle. I'll soon be
doing something similar with the other coins, especially the sixpences
- and selling them for £10 each too - making a bag worth somewhat over
Ten Thousand Pounds (not that I intend trying to sell them all - but
still better than melting them down).


--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

Mother wrote:
> On Tue, 23 May 2006 22:06:05 +0100, Steve
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> What else do I do with then? Sit on them? Weigh them in? I somewhat
>>> doubt my children would thank me for leaving a pile of coins in my
>>> will - 't cost them more to move it than they'd get!
>> The price of copper at the moment means that weighing them in might be
>> more profitable for Alzheimers charities.
>
> I think your math is a bit out. ONE bag of old Pennies weighs 9K and
> contains 1,200 Pennies - that's £1,200 pounds by doing the current
> auction - somewhat more than weighing in 9K of not totally pure copper
> - even at todays over-inflated metals prices

I was thinking in the event of you not managing to offload all half ton
- the price of metals ATM is amazing - some of the stuff we use
(tungsten) is a factor of 4X more than 18 months ago.

"Defacing" is OK if you don't attempt to pass it as legal tender isn't it ?

Steve

On Tue, 23 May 2006 22:48:40 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> said:

>> And you won't get bollocked for defacing coin of the realm.

> I won't be bollocked for defacing coins of the realm if I sell them
> 'as is' _or_ melt them down - they are no longer coins of the realm.

> I am currently selling 2003 2p coins for £10 each which have legally
> been (quite seriously) tampered with, as you know, and with the full
> warrant of the Treasury as granted to the Magic Circle. I'll soon
> be doing something similar with the other coins, especially the
> sixpences - and selling them for £10 each too - making a bag worth
> somewhat over Ten Thousand Pounds (not that I intend trying to sell
> them all - but still better than melting them down).

This sort of tampering?

http://205.243.100.155/frames/home.html

--
Alan J. Wylie http://www.wylie.me.uk/
"Perfection [in design] is achieved not when there is nothing left to add,
but rather when there is nothing left to take away."
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

On Tue, 23 May 2006 22:03:02 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 May 2006 13:45:13 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>eBay Item: 8815654450
>>>
>>>I inherited a large number of bullion bags full of old coins following
>>>the death of my uncle last year. One of these bags has now been
>>>opened and I thought it may be a good fundraising exercise, given the
>>>bag contains mint 1966 One Penny coins, to flog them off via eBay.
>>
>>can't help wondering why...
>
>Why what? Why I'm selling them off on eBay?
>
>Simple - I have over half a tonne of the bloddy things (all sorts,
>ha'pennies, sovs, half sovs, half crowns, crowns, sixpences,
>threpeniebitiites and the like). They came from my uncle - who was a
>tad wierd (see: http://www.101fc.net/kent-2002/index.htm ).
>

You'd probably be surprised what thier book value is, and given the
book values you're probably sitting on a fortune. Unfortunatly you
flooding the numismatic market with em will result in them being
nowhere worth the book value. ....

Alex

On Tue, 23 May 2006 23:09:06 +0100, [email protected] (Alan J. Wylie)
wrote:

>This sort of tampering?
>
>http://205.243.100.155/frames/home.html

No - but the link you've posted is something I've been thinking
seriously about (or at least contacting the chap concerned).


--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

On Tue, 23 May 2006 23:02:47 +0100, Steve
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Defacing" is OK if you don't attempt to pass it as legal tender isn't it ?

No. Any tampering of legal tender - for whatever purpose (making a
charm out of a coin, for example) is technically illegal.

The only (to my knowledge) exception from this is the Warrant held by
the Magic Circle and passed on by default to (honorary, permanent,
inner, elected and full) members thereof.

The point being that the coins _must_ be 'seen' as 'normal' for the
illusion to work. Even then it is frowned upon to in any way 'alter'
the face of the Monarch (so my 'Winking Queens' 10p pieces - no typo,
were not very popular at the time...)

I have accidentally 'spent' a gaffed £1 coin to buy a newspaper before
now - and at £20 a time, makes for an expensive read on the plane.


--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

On or around Tue, 23 May 2006 22:03:02 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Mon, 22 May 2006 13:45:13 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>eBay Item: 8815654450
>>>
>>>I inherited a large number of bullion bags full of old coins following
>>>the death of my uncle last year. One of these bags has now been
>>>opened and I thought it may be a good fundraising exercise, given the
>>>bag contains mint 1966 One Penny coins, to flog them off via eBay.
>>
>>can't help wondering why...
>
>Why what? Why I'm selling them off on eBay?

no, why have stacks of mint 1966 pennies (and other coinage) was what I had
in mind. I mean, collection of odd coins, yeah - I've got some, but not
thousands all the same.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"
Alphonse Karr (1808 - 1890) Les Guêpes, Jan 1849

On Tue, 23 May 2006 19:18:05 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>1972-ish there was still a pub in Kirkstall (Leeds) that served Tetley's
>Mild at 10p a pint. Ten of those was a reasonable approximation of ratarsed
>FSVO arsed. Trouble is it was dog-rough, so it became known as "pint of
>beer and a fight please".

Tetleys is always going to be cheap in leeds. When i was there 6 or 7
years ago i remember it being £1 a pint frequently (in normal pubs)

I think i once managed to drink around 14 of them (i have unpleasant
memories of the day after!). Its a good job i can't drink anywhere
near that much now im older!

On Tue, 23 May 2006 23:18:23 +0100, Alex <[email protected]>
wrote:

>You'd probably be surprised what thier book value is, and given the
>book values you're probably sitting on a fortune. Unfortunatly you
>flooding the numismatic market with em will result in them being
>nowhere worth the book value. ....

TBH I'm not overly bothered about their 'value'. They're really nice
looking coins and a piece of history for a large number of people.

On Wed, 24 May 2006 07:42:07 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>Why what? Why I'm selling them off on eBay?
>
>no, why have stacks of mint 1966 pennies (and other coinage) was what I had
>in mind. I mean, collection of odd coins, yeah - I've got some, but not
>thousands all the same.

I think the answer to that is now ashes scattered to the wind.
You rather had to 'know' my uncle and his quirky eccentric ways to
understand (or not) some of the odd things he did. His estate
realised 4M - a fair chunk of which went to that nice Mr Brown.


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"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

On Wed, 24 May 2006 09:18:22 +0100, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Tetleys is always going to be cheap in leeds. When i was there 6 or 7
>years ago i remember it being £1 a pint frequently (in normal pubs)
>
>I think i once managed to drink around 14 of them (i have unpleasant
>memories of the day after!). Its a good job i can't drink anywhere
>near that much now im older!

Tetley, Stones, Wards and the like were intended, historically, to be
weak as p!ss. The steelworkers etc would be so dehydrated that they'd
easily sup 8+ pints at lunchtime. The factory owners didn't like
drunken workers so put pressure on the brewers to make weak ale.

This is good news for us lightweights and I used to think Wards was a
fair pint actually - not to be confused with the likes of the 'real
ale' that CAMRA seek, though!


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"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

Tom Woods wrote:

> Tetleys is always going to be cheap in leeds. When i was there 6 or 7
> years ago i remember it being £1 a pint frequently (in normal pubs)
Twas 50p in my day. And that was robbery.

Steve

Mother wrote:

> Tetley, Stones, Wards and the like were intended, historically, to be
> weak as p!ss. The steelworkers etc would be so dehydrated that they'd
> easily sup 8+ pints at lunchtime.

Don't we have the Sheffield workers bosses to thank for the original
licencing laws, brought in under the defence of the realm act for the
first world war ?

Steve