OT:Blunketts gone, Ken next please?

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Someone start throwing **** at this ****er & we'll all be happier bunnies.

I am SO glad Blunketts gone, total herbert.

Nige
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> I am SO glad Blunketts gone, total herbert.
>
> Nige

Ken next? - someone's got their priorities wrong! Blair and the rest of
his cronies are far further up the list. Ken hardly features - at least
north of Watford.

 


Dougal wrote:
>> I am SO glad Blunketts gone, total herbert.
>>
>> Nige
>
>
> Ken next? - someone's got their priorities wrong! Blair and the rest of
> his cronies are far further up the list. Ken hardly features - at least
> north of Watford.
>
I Disagree.
If you look at it logically the more these people are kept
on. The more chances when it comes to voting time in kicking them out of
power..
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On or around Thu, 16 Dec 2004 06:16:48 +0000, John Oakes
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>I Disagree.
> If you look at it logically the more these people are kept
>on. The more chances when it comes to voting time in kicking them out of
>power..

didn;t work last time, they got a larger majority.

Mind, that's mainly 'cos the major opposition are a bunch of tw*ts too. I
see the idiot Howard is in favour of ID cards an' all.

 

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Someone start throwing **** at this ****er & we'll all be happier bunnies.
>
> I am SO glad Blunketts gone, total herbert.
>
> Nige
> --
> Subaru WRX (The Bitch)
>
>
> __
>
>

It amazes me that despite being caught mis-using his powers and position to
a degree whereby his resignation became inevitable that he claims his
dignity is intact!!
Do this Govt think they are so far above the law that they need not admit
to it even when caught red janded?

At least the Italians are prepared to take their corrupt politicians to
court even if their jusicial system does then let them down!

Perhaps this is the first example of hopefully many more where the press
has used its power to some effect instead of lettig this Govt sweep them
under the mat again and again.

David
LLAMA 4x4
www.llama4x4.co.uk



 
On 2004-12-15, Nige <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am SO glad Blunketts gone, total herbert.

Ditto, however he's been replaced with Fungus the Bogeyman, we'll have
to see how it goes!

I don't think I can think of a single person who likes Blunkett, apart
from Bliar, out of touch again!

--
For every expert, there is an equal but opposite expert
 
On 2004-12-16, David_LLAMA4x4 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps this is the first example of hopefully many more where the
> press has used its power to some effect instead of lettig this Govt
> sweep them under the mat again and again.

It didn't work with Mandelson though did it, didn't he come back twice
in the end before getting shipped off to Europe for a while? What
does it take to keep abusers caught red-handed out of government I
wonder.

--
For every expert, there is an equal but opposite expert
 
"David_LLAMA4x4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Someone start throwing **** at this ****er & we'll all be happier
bunnies.
> >
> > I am SO glad Blunketts gone, total herbert.
> >
> > Nige
> > --
> > Subaru WRX (The Bitch)
> >
> >
> > __
> >
> >
>
> It amazes me that despite being caught mis-using his powers and position
to
> a degree whereby his resignation became inevitable that he claims his
> dignity is intact!!
> Do this Govt think they are so far above the law that they need not
admit
> to it even when caught red janded?

Mandelson. Twice. And even now he's still around. It stinks, and the
Gov't wonder why there's voter apathy. It also makes me angry when I hear
from "them" that the overwhelming majority of the electorate supported
Labour. Hang on! The last vote got TB & Co in on 46% of the seats won ...
meaning that the actual overwhelming majority of seats belong to Con/Lib
MP's. Extending that, those 46% of the seats scored around 11 million
votes. Yet the electorate numbers about 40 million. Now my school days are
rather a long way behind me but it seems that TB&Co only got around 25% of
the electoral vote, so therefore 75% of electors found them and their
policies particularly distasteful and wanted nothing to do with TB&Co. 75%
is, or was when I was at school, a rather larger "majority" than 25% !!

Steve
.....shaking head and wondering


 

"David_LLAMA4x4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> It amazes me that despite being caught mis-using his powers and position
> to
> a degree whereby his resignation became inevitable that he claims his
> dignity is intact!!
> Do this Govt think they are so far above the law that they need not admit
> to it even when caught red janded?
>
> At least the Italians are prepared to take their corrupt politicians to
> court even if their jusicial system does then let them down!
>
> Perhaps this is the first example of hopefully many more where the press
> has used its power to some effect instead of lettig this Govt sweep them
> under the mat again and again.
>
> David
> LLAMA 4x4
> www.llama4x4.co.uk
>
>
>
Avoiding any Political leanings -

Problem is "Who elected the Press?"

Do we really want to be run by people who will bend the truth just to sell
newspapers and swell their fat pockets?

At least with politicians, (any colour) who bend the truth we get an
opportunity to get rid every 4 years. Its not their fault the majority of
the population couldn't care, and of those who do care only a very small
minority can actually see through the crap we see on TV or read in the
newspapers.

We get the gov't we deserve.

Gerry



 
On Thursday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Ian Rawlings" wrote:

> On 2004-12-16, David_LLAMA4x4 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps this is the first example of hopefully many more where the
> > press has used its power to some effect instead of lettig this Govt
> > sweep them under the mat again and again.
>
> It didn't work with Mandelson though did it, didn't he come back twice
> in the end before getting shipped off to Europe for a while? What
> does it take to keep abusers caught red-handed out of government I
> wonder.

The canonical answer on uk.business.agriculture seems to involve nails,
a large hammer, and a spare church door.



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On 2004-12-16, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:

> ....shaking head and wondering

It seems that Fungus the Bogeyman is going to push ID cards as hard as
Blunkett, so that particular white elephant is going to get foisted on
us still. Given the government's record with massive I.T. projects
this is going to end in enormous tears and a right royal PITA for us
poor sods who "employ" the MPs to "work for us", yeah right!

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"GerryNutoLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "David_LLAMA4x4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> > It amazes me that despite being caught mis-using his powers and position
> > to
> > a degree whereby his resignation became inevitable that he claims his
> > dignity is intact!!
> > Do this Govt think they are so far above the law that they need not
admit
> > to it even when caught red janded?
> >
> > At least the Italians are prepared to take their corrupt politicians to
> > court even if their jusicial system does then let them down!
> >
> > Perhaps this is the first example of hopefully many more where the press
> > has used its power to some effect instead of lettig this Govt sweep them
> > under the mat again and again.
> >
> > David
> > LLAMA 4x4
> > www.llama4x4.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> Avoiding any Political leanings -
>
> Problem is "Who elected the Press?"
>
> Do we really want to be run by people who will bend the truth just to sell
> newspapers and swell their fat pockets?
>
> At least with politicians, (any colour) who bend the truth we get an
> opportunity to get rid every 4 years. Its not their fault the majority of
> the population couldn't care, and of those who do care only a very small
> minority can actually see through the crap we see on TV or read in the
> newspapers.
>
> We get the gov't we deserve.
>
> Gerry
>
>
>

Agreed - the press can also cause havoc where there need be not even a
whimper. But the press has not been active enough in the last terms of Govt.
to highlight some of the failings to the non caring public - most of these
people only see the telly and papers and look no further for political
information.

The last lot were ousted through press intrusion into their private lives
( wrong ) - this lot have been caught time and time again fiddling at work
and still no pressure has been put on them until now.

We get the govt. we don't vote for in our country! Only about 1 in 4 of the
voting population actually wanted this Govt. to be in power! If voying were
to be either compulsary ( or better still popular with the public ) then Mr
B and his cronies would never have had the chance to cock up as much as they
have!!1

David
LLAMa 4x4
www.llama4x4.co.uk


 
On 2004-12-16, "David G. Bell" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The canonical answer on uk.business.agriculture seems to involve nails,
> a large hammer, and a spare church door.

What? No red hot poker? I'm most disappointed.

--
For every expert, there is an equal but opposite expert
 
In message <[email protected]>, GerryNutoLR
<[email protected]> writes
>
>"David_LLAMA4x4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> It amazes me that despite being caught mis-using his powers and position
>> to
>> a degree whereby his resignation became inevitable that he claims his
>> dignity is intact!!
>> Do this Govt think they are so far above the law that they need not admit
>> to it even when caught red janded?
>>
>> At least the Italians are prepared to take their corrupt politicians to
>> court even if their jusicial system does then let them down!
>>
>> Perhaps this is the first example of hopefully many more where the press
>> has used its power to some effect instead of lettig this Govt sweep them
>> under the mat again and again.
>>
>> David
>> LLAMA 4x4
>> www.llama4x4.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>Avoiding any Political leanings -
>
>Problem is "Who elected the Press?"
>
>Do we really want to be run by people who will bend the truth just to sell
>newspapers and swell their fat pockets?
>
>At least with politicians, (any colour) who bend the truth we get an
>opportunity to get rid every 4 years. Its not their fault the majority of
>the population couldn't care, and of those who do care only a very small
>minority can actually see through the crap we see on TV or read in the
>newspapers.
>
>We get the gov't we deserve.
>
>Gerry
>
>
>
I agree entirely Gerry. For example, whether you are in favour of the
Euro or not, every one of Murdoch's newspapers will campaign against it
simply because he has ordered them to do so. Democracy relies on a free
independent investigative press, and we are being very badly served by
the current crop of so called journalist most of whom haven't the brains
to conduct even a half decent interview.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
In message <[email protected]>, David_LLAMA4x4
<[email protected]> writes
>
>"GerryNutoLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "David_LLAMA4x4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> >
>> > It amazes me that despite being caught mis-using his powers and position
>> > to
>> > a degree whereby his resignation became inevitable that he claims his
>> > dignity is intact!!
>> > Do this Govt think they are so far above the law that they need not
>admit
>> > to it even when caught red janded?
>> >
>> > At least the Italians are prepared to take their corrupt politicians to
>> > court even if their jusicial system does then let them down!
>> >
>> > Perhaps this is the first example of hopefully many more where the press
>> > has used its power to some effect instead of lettig this Govt sweep them
>> > under the mat again and again.
>> >
>> > David
>> > LLAMA 4x4
>> > www.llama4x4.co.uk
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Avoiding any Political leanings -
>>
>> Problem is "Who elected the Press?"
>>
>> Do we really want to be run by people who will bend the truth just to sell
>> newspapers and swell their fat pockets?
>>
>> At least with politicians, (any colour) who bend the truth we get an
>> opportunity to get rid every 4 years. Its not their fault the majority of
>> the population couldn't care, and of those who do care only a very small
>> minority can actually see through the crap we see on TV or read in the
>> newspapers.
>>
>> We get the gov't we deserve.
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>>
>>
>
> Agreed - the press can also cause havoc where there need be not even a
>whimper. But the press has not been active enough in the last terms of Govt.
>to highlight some of the failings to the non caring public - most of these
>people only see the telly and papers and look no further for political
>information.
>
> The last lot were ousted through press intrusion into their private lives
>( wrong ) - this lot have been caught time and time again fiddling at work
>and still no pressure has been put on them until now.
>
> We get the govt. we don't vote for in our country! Only about 1 in 4 of the
>voting population actually wanted this Govt. to be in power! If voying were
>to be either compulsary ( or better still popular with the public ) then Mr
>B and his cronies would never have had the chance to cock up as much as they
>have!!1
>
>David
>LLAMa 4x4
> www.llama4x4.co.uk
>
>
What a load of utter drivel (again). If you're so clever why don't you
go and stand for election yourself and let's see you provide a national
health service with no waiting lists and every possible treatment for
every patient, a national free education system, a benefits system which
only provides strictly for the needy, trains which run on time, decent
pensions and care for the elderly without of course levying any taxes at
all - everything which any government tries to achieve in the face of
uniformed bigoted ranting from people like you. Come on, get off your
arse and show us how it's done!
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
David_LLAMA4x4 composed the following ...

> We get the govt. we don't vote for in our country! Only about 1 in 4 of
> the voting population actually wanted this Govt. to be in power! If
> voying were to be either compulsary ( or better still popular with the
> public ) then Mr B and his cronies would never have had the chance to
> cock up as much as they have!!1

Utter drivel. The government were voted for by those who care .. If people
don't vote then they simply don't care enough to try to change their way of
life. There may be some who might try to vote tactically, but essentially
the government _is_ chosen by those who choose to vote.

IMHO Many of the problems faced by this particular government are a legacy
of the Tory rule that lasted so long. Again, though, the Tories were voted
in fairly under our existing system.

If you want to change the system, send us a copy of your manifesto, let's
see what you can do .. ;)

--
Paul ...
http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
(8(!) Homer Rules ... ;)
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


 
On 2004-12-16, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

> What a load of utter drivel (again). If you're so clever why don't you
> go and stand for election yourself and let's see you provide a national

<list of impossibilities deleted>

So are you saying we're not allowed to talk about landrover build
quality being crap unless we can build a better car ourselves?

Oh dear that's half the group gone!

--
For every expert, there is an equal but opposite expert
 

"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>, David_LLAMA4x4
> <[email protected]> writes
> >
> >"GerryNutoLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "David_LLAMA4x4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> >
> >> > It amazes me that despite being caught mis-using his powers and
position
> >> > to
> >> > a degree whereby his resignation became inevitable that he claims his
> >> > dignity is intact!!
> >> > Do this Govt think they are so far above the law that they need not
> >admit
> >> > to it even when caught red janded?
> >> >
> >> > At least the Italians are prepared to take their corrupt politicians
to
> >> > court even if their jusicial system does then let them down!
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps this is the first example of hopefully many more where the
press
> >> > has used its power to some effect instead of lettig this Govt sweep
them
> >> > under the mat again and again.
> >> >
> >> > David
> >> > LLAMA 4x4
> >> > www.llama4x4.co.uk
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Avoiding any Political leanings -
> >>
> >> Problem is "Who elected the Press?"
> >>
> >> Do we really want to be run by people who will bend the truth just to
sell
> >> newspapers and swell their fat pockets?
> >>
> >> At least with politicians, (any colour) who bend the truth we get an
> >> opportunity to get rid every 4 years. Its not their fault the majority
of
> >> the population couldn't care, and of those who do care only a very
small
> >> minority can actually see through the crap we see on TV or read in the
> >> newspapers.
> >>
> >> We get the gov't we deserve.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Agreed - the press can also cause havoc where there need be not even a
> >whimper. But the press has not been active enough in the last terms of
Govt.
> >to highlight some of the failings to the non caring public - most of
these
> >people only see the telly and papers and look no further for political
> >information.
> >
> > The last lot were ousted through press intrusion into their private
lives
> >( wrong ) - this lot have been caught time and time again fiddling at
work
> >and still no pressure has been put on them until now.
> >
> > We get the govt. we don't vote for in our country! Only about 1 in 4 of
the
> >voting population actually wanted this Govt. to be in power! If voying
were
> >to be either compulsary ( or better still popular with the public ) then
Mr
> >B and his cronies would never have had the chance to cock up as much as
they
> >have!!1
> >
> >David
> >LLAMa 4x4
> > www.llama4x4.co.uk
> >
> >
> What a load of utter drivel (again). If you're so clever why don't you
> go and stand for election yourself and let's see you provide a national
> health service with no waiting lists and every possible treatment for
> every patient, a national free education system, a benefits system which
> only provides strictly for the needy, trains which run on time, decent
> pensions and care for the elderly without of course levying any taxes at
> all - everything which any government tries to achieve in the face of
> uniformed bigoted ranting from people like you. Come on, get off your
> arse and show us how it's done!
> --
> hugh
> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

I have never said I am clever enough to do it - nor have I said I want to
try.
BUT the oeople we have doing the job at present are not doing it either -
the difference is that they are being paid a lot of money to underachieve.
The tasks of a Govt are perhaps impossible to fully achieve and we should
aim for as near as we can get - but if what we have at the moment is as near
as we can get we need new people doing it - many other counytries very near
to home are getting nearer than we are at the moment so it is possible to be
better than we are at the moment.

If you ( or most on this NG ) were caught stealing from work. or proven to
be incompetent. you would be dismissed without doubt and have no integrity
( or references ) to show for it. Why should a disgraced Minister be given
the chance that no other person would get?

The opposition parties at the moment are weak which is not helping the
situation but IMHO this Govt' will enter the history books as one of the
worst of recent British history....

David
LLAMA 4x4


 
> I have never said I am clever enough to do it
>
Please don't credit politicians with being clever. The vast majority of
them are not.

 

"Dougal" <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > I have never said I am clever enough to do it
> >
> Please don't credit politicians with being clever. The vast majority of
> them are not.
>

Agreed - you find enough job that carries that much responsibility that you
can do without a specific qualification / experience. And yet anyone can
become a politician....

David
LLAMA 4x4
www.llama4x4.co.uk



 
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