NtHell

This site contains affiliate links for which LandyZone may be compensated if you make a purchase.
L

Lee_D

Guest
I'm still having trouble seeing my own posts, replies to posts and some new
posts which is very hit and Miss... I've managed to see Martyns reply for my
membership - ta for the clarification. I've had to resort to Google and it's
prolonged updating to see Rich's reply.. I'll call you later Richard re the
bumper.

Looks like new service provider time... Just need to bung up a Sky dish and
I can dump Ntl then.

Lee D


--

www.lrproject.com

Workshop photos from Landrover repairs
& other such tinkerings.
Home of Percy the Jag powered Landrover


 
On or around Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:50:50 GMT, "Lee_D" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>I'm still having trouble seeing my own posts, replies to posts and some new
>posts which is very hit and Miss... I've managed to see Martyns reply for my
>membership - ta for the clarification. I've had to resort to Google and it's
>prolonged updating to see Rich's reply.. I'll call you later Richard re the
>bumper.
>
>Looks like new service provider time... Just need to bung up a Sky dish and
>I can dump Ntl then.

I've been using what was the CIS server, at news.inidividual.net for ages -
they've just put in place a policy to charge for it, but it's only 10 euros
a year, at the moment.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Ask yourself whether you are happy, and you cease to be so."
John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873)
 
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:50:50 GMT, "Lee_D" <[email protected]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>
>>I'm still having trouble seeing my own posts, replies to posts and some new
>>posts which is very hit and Miss... I've managed to see Martyns reply for my
>>membership - ta for the clarification. I've had to resort to Google and it's
>>prolonged updating to see Rich's reply.. I'll call you later Richard re the
>>bumper.
>>
>>Looks like new service provider time... Just need to bung up a Sky dish and
>>I can dump Ntl then.
>
>
> I've been using what was the CIS server, at news.inidividual.net for ages -
> they've just put in place a policy to charge for it, but it's only 10 euros
> a year, at the moment.
>
Ello you two, especially Lee :0) I've posted about a gearbox change,
and had very little response, don't suppose either of you have done/seen
similar ? (LT85 <->R380) in my 110V8.

`Mark
 
Lee_D wrote:

> Looks like new service provider time... Just need to bung up a Sky dish and
> I can dump Ntl then.

adsl.zen.co.uk

The best.

Steve
 
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been using what was the CIS server, at news.inidividual.net for
> ages -
> they've just put in place a policy to charge for it, but it's only 10
> euros
> a year, at the moment.

Fingers crossed......



 
On or around Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:18:36 +0100, Mark <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:
>>
>Ello you two, especially Lee :0) I've posted about a gearbox change,
>and had very little response, don't suppose either of you have done/seen
>similar ? (LT85 <->R380) in my 110V8.

I've not done that one, no. I'd be inclined to hunt a complete box/tbox
assembly from a breaker, if I was going to.

hmmm. LT85? that's the 5-speed santana, isn't it?

ISTR LT95 (4-speed) and LT77 (5-speed) in earlier 110s.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"It is a characteristic of the human mind to hate the man one has injured"
Tacitus (c.55 - c.117) Agricola, 45
 
On or around Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:27:56 +0100, "lee davies"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I've been using what was the CIS server, at news.inidividual.net for
>> ages -
>> they've just put in place a policy to charge for it, but it's only 10
>> euros
>> a year, at the moment.
>
>Fingers crossed......
>
>

if it goes too high in future years, I'll not renew it... I imagine they're
not stupid, and realise this. Better to have many thousdands of users
paying €10 each than hundreds paying more.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"It is a characteristic of the human mind to hate the man one has injured"
Tacitus (c.55 - c.117) Agricola, 45
 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:eek:[email protected]...
> On or around Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:27:56 +0100, "lee davies"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> I've been using what was the CIS server, at news.inidividual.net for
> >> ages -
> >> they've just put in place a policy to charge for it, but it's only 10
> >> euros
> >> a year, at the moment.
> >
> >Fingers crossed......
> >
> >
>
> if it goes too high in future years, I'll not renew it... I imagine
they're
> not stupid, and realise this. Better to have many thousdands of users
> paying ?10 each than hundreds paying more.

I paid 20 euros and got it for 2 years


 
Austin Shackles wrote:
Better to have many thousdands of users
> paying €10 each than hundreds paying more.
>
Bollocks Austin ;-), give me 10 customers hassles at 10,000 quid a go,
than 10,000 users hassles at 10 quid a go. Anyday.

Steve
 
Steve Taylor wrote:

> Bollocks Austin ;-), give me 10 customers hassles at 10,000 quid a go,

Ok then - find me 10 customers willing to pay 10,000 quid a year for
usenet and i'll set up the best usenet server ever!

--
EMB
 
On or around Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:06:08 +1200, EMB <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Steve Taylor wrote:
>
>> Bollocks Austin ;-), give me 10 customers hassles at 10,000 quid a go,
>
>Ok then - find me 10 customers willing to pay 10,000 quid a year for
>usenet and i'll set up the best usenet server ever!

bah. I was gonna say that. In fact, find me *one* customer...

My point was that if you charge 10 euros, (about 6 quid), lots of people
will sign up. If you tried to charge 100 quid, probably less than 10% of
the original lot would sign up, bearing in mind the alternatives available
for less. If it were twice the price, I'd probably still use it. If it
were more than twice the price, I'd think again.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Confidence: Before important work meetings, boost your confidence by
reading a few pages from "The Tibetan Book of the Dead"
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
EMB wrote:

> Steve Taylor wrote:
>
>> Bollocks Austin ;-), give me 10 customers hassles at 10,000 quid a go,
>
> Ok then - find me 10 customers willing to pay 10,000 quid a year for
> usenet and i'll set up the best usenet server ever!
>

You won't you know.

Usenet is currently running at somewhere over 1.3TB of traffic a day. So,
you have to buy IP transit to get the money in - figure around 70p per gig
transferred - probably a bit high, but even so. That's 1300 gig a day. £910
a day - just for bandwidth - £335k per year for the bandwidth.

Now figure that you have to store that - Let's work on a 1 year retention -
365 * 1.3TB == 475TB - roughly half a Petabyte.

Now, you could use IDE disks, but you want a good service, not a vaguely
pants one with decent amounts of space but **** awful performance.

So, you're into the realms of the big storage companies. Let's assume HDS
(Because I happen to have their pricing here).

Approx £17-20 per GB. You need 474000 of those. That's £8m - just for the
disk.

Going a bit cheaper, you could go for an IDE based RAID solution - a
cheapish one is the DNUK Teravault range - you're looking at around £11k
for 6.4TB of storage. So, you need 75 of those. That's £825k

Your servers are going to be reasonably cheap - £6-8k for a decent spec PC
based server.

However, at the end of the day, that's insignificant.

So, at the end of a year, with a news server farm that is merely acceptable
you are going to cost yourself at least £1.17m. For something a bit better
than acceptable the costs go up to somewhere around £8.4m.

You're not going to support that on £100k a year.

Find me a million customers willing to pay a tenner a year. I'll deal with
the ****.

P.

--
1992 200 TDI Disco - heavily modified
1982 V8 Range Rover - heavily corroded
2000 Rover 75 - heavily driven
1993 Lexus LS400 - just plain heavy on fuel
 
Paul S. Brown wrote:
> Usenet is currently running at somewhere over 1.3TB of traffic a day.


....or more realistically,what ? Say 1 Gb/day of text groups like this
'un and a lot of warez, movies and other stolen copyrighted material.

Text retention is relatively easy, I suspect retaining the binary groups
is more likely to have legal problems....

Steve
 
Steve Taylor wrote:

> Paul S. Brown wrote:
>> Usenet is currently running at somewhere over 1.3TB of traffic a day.
>
>
> ...or more realistically,what ? Say 1 Gb/day of text groups like this
> 'un and a lot of warez, movies and other stolen copyrighted material.
>
> Text retention is relatively easy, I suspect retaining the binary groups
> is more likely to have legal problems....
>

Figure 6GB a day for text, however he did say "Best Usenet Server Ever"

P.
--
1992 200 TDI Disco - heavily modified
1982 V8 Range Rover - heavily corroded
2000 Rover 75 - heavily driven
1993 Lexus LS400 - just plain heavy on fuel
 
On or around Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:18:52 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Steve Taylor wrote:
>
>> Paul S. Brown wrote:
>>> Usenet is currently running at somewhere over 1.3TB of traffic a day.
>>
>>
>> ...or more realistically,what ? Say 1 Gb/day of text groups like this
>> 'un and a lot of warez, movies and other stolen copyrighted material.
>>
>> Text retention is relatively easy, I suspect retaining the binary groups
>> is more likely to have legal problems....
>>
>
>Figure 6GB a day for text, however he did say "Best Usenet Server Ever"

he did, din't he.

mind, I don't think I'd do 1-year retention across the board. more like 30
days max for binaries, unless you're planning to rival google news. does
google retain binaries?

most of the text could be compressed, too, once it was more than a certain
age.


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:18:36 +0100, Mark <[email protected]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Ello you two, especially Lee :0) I've posted about a gearbox change,
>>and had very little response, don't suppose either of you have done/seen
>>similar ? (LT85 <->R380) in my 110V8.
>
>
> I've not done that one, no. I'd be inclined to hunt a complete box/tbox
> assembly from a breaker, if I was going to.
>
> hmmm. LT85? that's the 5-speed santana, isn't it?
>
> ISTR LT95 (4-speed) and LT77 (5-speed) in earlier 110s.
>
Yep, but I want the 5 speed with an internal pump, cos it hasd to do
long runs as well, so an R380 is perfect :0)

`Mark
 
On or around Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:31:13 +0100, Mark <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:18:36 +0100, Mark <[email protected]>
>> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>Ello you two, especially Lee :0) I've posted about a gearbox change,
>>>and had very little response, don't suppose either of you have done/seen
>>>similar ? (LT85 <->R380) in my 110V8.
>>
>>
>> I've not done that one, no. I'd be inclined to hunt a complete box/tbox
>> assembly from a breaker, if I was going to.
>>
>> hmmm. LT85? that's the 5-speed santana, isn't it?
>>
>> ISTR LT95 (4-speed) and LT77 (5-speed) in earlier 110s.
>>
>Yep, but I want the 5 speed with an internal pump, cos it hasd to do
>long runs as well, so an R380 is perfect :0)

the LT77 has an internal pump an' all.

Mind, all the LT77s and the early R380s have output shaft problems; of
course, if you're looking at recons, then that's not a problem.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
In Touch: Get in touch with yourself by touching yourself.
If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

L
MOT's on line.
Replies
0
Views
1K
Lee_D
L
L
Reminder: October Unofficial 2006
Replies
2
Views
617
Lee_D
L
L
October Unofficial
7 8 9
Replies
164
Views
11K
Mother
M
L
Pop up garages.
Replies
10
Views
2K
Lee_D
L
L
:0) Finally! - Morph gets painted
Replies
12
Views
1K
Stephen Hull
S
Back
Top