My Freelander has gone into the garage, guess the final cost?

i woz rite - daft names

I never said you weren't

Well it cost £45 + vat, but that was just for an hours diagnostics. Basically they checked it all over and found nothing. They said its not falling in half or anything and with nothing obvious showing up, what did I want them to do? As he said its going to get expensive to start replacing items as a process of elimination and even more costly to strip down IRDs and gearboxes. So I said to leave it at that and I'll come and collect it.

Seriously ****ed off by this. I've got a car that everyone says WTFs that when it vibrates. It makes it horrible to drive and I tend to jump into my old Xantia rather than use the Freelander. Expensive ornament for the driveway, but I doubt I could even sell it like it is?

Really gutted as me and the Wife really like the car, but it's no use to man or beast like it is. So I dont know, perhaps I should start replacing driveshafts to start with and then the IRD if they dont cure it? Or maybe I should just employ Messrs Bryant & May.....

have yu demonstrated the fault to the garage?

The Mad Hat Man said:

have yu demonstrated the fault to the garage?

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Yup. They said its there but it needs to be laboured to make it do it and I should use more revs with the car. I think was more of a sort of drive around it type advice until what ever it is become more apparent.

They're a good garage with good knowledge and a very good reputation. I appreciate them not just spending my money at random, but I still have the damn problem. Ho hum.

When is the day of reckoning

there's a flooded quarry near me which is pretty deep.
the fuzz dived in it a few years back, looking for a dead body.
they found about 20 cars in the bottom - hmmm, i wonder how / why they got there?

have yu noticed - someone voted after Taipan said wot the garage charged - sneaky - huh?

morni lr

Taipan said:

Well it cost £45 + vat, but that was just for an hours diagnostics. Basically they checked it all over and found nothing.
Seriously ****ed off by this.

I've got a car that everyone says WTFs that when it vibrates. It makes it horrible to drive and I tend to jump into my old Xantia rather than use the Freelander. Expensive ornament for the driveway, but I doubt I could even sell it like it is?

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You got out cheap with the diagnostic charge. My ex-dealer are now £75 an hour plus VAT.

I had a prob with clunking/rattling with FL long time ago. Dealer took the car over rumble strip and couldnt source problem. Was back and forward to dealers numerous times, they still couldnt source prob. Eventually they narrowed it down to defective flexi pipe on the exhaust.

If its a bad vibration then I would say its the engine mounts. You also get a hollow drone from the airbox/manifold if loose. The front wings can resonate, and stupid push fit covers under the front wheel arches rattle and shake.


there are numerous things that it could be? More then likely it is a mounting or poorly mounted component rather than IRD or gearbox. You would really feel the shaking through th gear stick and transmission it were the drivetrain.

Willo had an annoying vibration on his freebiter, cant remember quite but some loose vent in the front, if he reads this he'll let ya know. . . .

ming said:

Willo had an annoying vibration on his freebiter, cant remember quite but some loose vent in the front, if he reads this he'll let ya know. . . .

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Hi ming,

Are you trying to make me believe I really suffer severe Alzheimer or what ?? Anyway, I can't remember a vibration on mine ? Are you sure it was me ?? Sorry

willo said:

Hi ming,

Are you trying to make me believe I really suffer severe Alzheimer or what ?? Anyway, I can't remember a vibration on mine ? Are you sure it was me ?? Sorry

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Well thought it was you. . . .

Reet found it . . .so tiapan check out in search . . .drop links td4. . . and you was in it Willo,but yer didnt start it, , , ,

ming said:

Reet found it . . .so tiapan check out in search . . .drop links td4. . . and you was in it Willo,but yer didnt start it, , , ,

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Thanks, I'll go and have a read up now.

ming said:

Reet found it . . .so tiapan check out in search . . .drop links td4. . . and you was in it Willo,but yer didnt start it, , , ,

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Worth a try but drop links give a distinctive rumbing noise when driving on a smooth road surface.

Does this vibration happen when you rev the engine whilst stationary?

LR1796 said:

Worth a try but drop links give a distinctive rumbing noise when driving on a smooth road surface.

Does this vibration happen when you rev the engine whilst stationary?

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After reading the thread I don't think its a drop link either.

I'm wondering if it is something like a mount, as yes the car does have some vibration when revving when stationary but is much worse when driven? So i'm guessing the engines torque is pulling a mount apart or something?

Taipan said:

I'm wondering if it is something like a mount, as yes the car does have some vibration when revving when stationary but is much worse when driven? So i'm guessing the engines torque is pulling a mount apart or something?

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I'll tell you now its your engine mounts. Priced a lower tie bar for the 1.8k series engine. £30 plus VAT and its about £160 for the large mount on the RHS

All that was needed was a replacement bush but they dont sell them separately you have to buy the whole attachment. So I fabricated one out of silicone - better than it ever was.

Try rocking your engine and look for excessive engine movement.
Rev it sharply and then lift your foot off the gas, if its the mounts then engine will rock under these sharps bursts of acceleration.

You can also rock the engine by hand if the mount bushes are badly worn.

LR1796 said:

I'll tell you now its your engine mounts. Priced a lower tie bar for the 1.8k series engine. £30 plus VAT and its about £160 for the large mount on the RHS

All that was needed was a replacement bush but they dont sell them separately you have to buy the whole attachment. So I fabricated one out of silicone - better than it ever was.

Try rocking your engine and look for excessive engine movement.
Rev it sharply and then lift your foot off the gas, if its the mounts then engine will rock under these sharps bursts of acceleration.

You can also rock the engine by hand if the mount bushes are badly worn.

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Hi mate.

Thanks for the feedback on this. Is this the large mount on the RHS you mention?

I am not fimiliar with that mount, I take it yours is a diesel engine, from the picture it looks like a solid casting, so it would only be part of a mount.

The engine vibration has to be cushioned against the chassis otherwise it would be unbearable.

If thats the mount for the diesel then more then likely there will be another part attached on to it with a soft/rubber bush.

Some of the k-series have rubber and hydromount for dampening the engine vibration/Harmonics. Lotus were foolish enough to use the same mounts for the k-series in the elise. The engine moves when cornering and puts weight distribution all over the show... not good for the handling of a race car.

Anyway back to the problem. I dont have the Heinz manual with me to referr to the mounts in the diesels. Will be off for next week or so. There are 3 mounts on the k-series and I would imagine there would be the same number for the diesels

LR1796 said:

I am not fimiliar with that mount, I take it yours is a diesel engine, from the picture its looks like a solid casting so it would only be part of a mount.

The engine vibration has to be cushioned against the chassis otherwise it would be unbearable.

If thats the mount for the diesel then more then likely there will be another part attached on to it with a soft/rubber bush.

Some of the k-series have rubber and hydromount for dampening the engine vibration/Harmonics. Lotus were foolish enough to use the same mounts for the k-series in the elise. The engine moves when cornering and puts weight distribution all over the show... not good for the handling of a race car.

Anyway back to the problem. I dont have the Heinz manual with me to referr to the mounts in the diesels. Will be off for next week or so. There are 3 mounts on the k-series and I would imagine there would be the same number for the diesels

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Yup, its the older 2.0L diesel. I'll have a good look at all the mounts etc. Cheers for the advice.