Morocco Easter time 2015

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james6546 said:
Meeting in Algeciras on the 29th March, back to the UK for the 19th April.
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Thanks James. Reason I asked is because my crew from the 4x4 Overland Travel forum will be over in Morocco end of March until May.

See Return to N.E. Morocco 2015...

Could all meet up over there for a party one evening? Also, my mob were over there last year too (sadly I couldn't make it), therefore it's guaranteed they will have some good routes to explore. Just a thought!
 
Trouble is, more often than not the vast majority of us seem to fall into the trap of being 'over prepared' ... or to be more precise, we take far too much gear so are fully laden.

"Go as light as possible" is of course the best policy, only that's easier said than done as more and more gear gets loaded. Think we've all done it, it's difficult.
 
Tom Mc said:
Trouble is, more often than not the vast majority of us seem to fall into the trap of being 'over prepared' ... or to be more precise, we take far too much gear so are fully laden.

"Go as light as possible" is of course the best policy, only that's easier said than done as more and more gear gets loaded. Think we've all done it, it's difficult.
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Don't know if you have seen the attached. This was from our 2014 trip.
Chris Suddell prepared the blog. Some of us hope to be on the 2015 trip. The 2014 group all want to do a 2016 trip.
"Living with Larry" my Land Rover Discovery 1 300TDI and overland travel: Morocco 4x4 overland tour, day 2
What route do you have in mind for your 2015 trip?

We will be playing around with the following:Zagora

south on n9

turn off west at 29 54 10 5 37 19

then generally west sand/piste until 29 39 49 7 12 30

then turn north to meet n12 to Tata

turn off n12 at 29 42 23 7 58 36

leave tarmac at 29 44 42 8 31 01

timkit

timkyet

tizerkine

at taloust turn south

ait Mansour

afla ighir

29 25 49 8 51 10

29 18 36 8 54 21

then south on r107

west on r102 to goulimine

then south on n1

turn to coast at 28 32 31 10 56 11

beach at 28 50 50 10 50 39

beach and coast track to tiznit

then n1 to Agadir and then motorway to tangier med.
 
Tom Mc said:
Trouble is, more often than not the vast majority of us seem to fall into the trap of being 'over prepared' ... or to be more precise, we take far too much gear so are fully laden.

"Go as light as possible" is of course the best policy, only that's easier said than done as more and more gear gets loaded. Think we've all done it, it's difficult.
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Just read through your whole thread. Lots of good tips so thanks for that. I hadn't even considered trying to limit weight to be honest.

I think it would be good to meet up if we could manage to cross paths.
 
Not sure I'd be any good at this over-landing lark, I'd want to take enough tools and spares to be able to rebuild it in the middle of the desert :eek:
 
aaronmorris said:
Not sure I'd be any good at this over-landing lark, I'd want to take enough tools and spares to be able to rebuild it in the middle of the desert :eek:
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I am with you. There are limits to everything, If the Defender can carry it why not take it. On our last trip mine was heavily loaded, mostly with food, beers, wine, water, diesel. If I was any lighter I don't see it would have made any difference. Oh, I had one or two spares like wheel bearings, ball joints and tools. For me part of the fun is all the planning and preparation. The only serious break down we had in the group was the 90 breaking a rear diff and front drive shaft which we didn't have spares for.
Next time round I will be a little wiser and could probably reduce some stuff which I didn't need. This might bring tears to Sarah's eyes, like the shower. Not so many Jerry cans for diesel and water. Less tin foods. I suppose it all depends on how inhabited the route is which you are planning on taking.
 
james6546 said:
Ha, same. I was just going to take all of the tools I used for my rebuild :D
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:D sounds like a plan, the thing is I wouldn't know where to stop :eek:
I'd want tools for any eventuality, you could probably get away with one of the big hafords sets as they have a fair few sockets and the like in, plus a few other bits and bobs.
But I haven't got one, so what do you take? A set of 1/2" sockets would probably do sockets wise, but I like to have a selection for the job to make life easier.
So it'd be 1/4" 3/8" and 1/2" shallow and deep as a minimum :eek:
Plus extensions, ratchets, breaker bars and a 56mm socket.
But, but, but...... am I going to round any bolts off? I'd hope not but you never know so I'll take Irwin bolt removers too.
Oh and do I need me allen keys for all them shiny socket caps I've fitted? meh.. take them anyway :eek:
Spanners, 7-32mm, hmm nice and easy then, but do I want ratchet spanners as well? Aye probably.
Then it's hammers (several sizes) chisels, punches (various) pliers, grips, mole grips, stillsons, screwdivers and probably a lot of other stuff.
Oooh another one, impact gun? will it stay charged long enough, be handy if it did.
And spares, Christ I wouldn't even know where to start, or is that stop?
Still I know what I mean :eek: just better to have it than not and have to pay more for it over their.
Or are parts reasonable over their.
Maybe I need a 130 when I go :eek:

mikescuba said:
I am with you. There are limits to everything, If the Defender can carry it why not take it. On our last trip mine was heavily loaded, mostly with food, beers, wine, water, diesel. If I was any lighter I don't see it would have made any difference. Oh, I had one or two spares like wheel bearings, ball joints and tools. For me part of the fun is all the planning and preparation. The only serious break down we had in the group was the 90 breaking a rear diff and front drive shaft which we didn't have spares for.
Next time round I will be a little wiser and could probably reduce some stuff which I didn't need. This might bring tears to Sarah's eyes, like the shower. Not so many Jerry cans for diesel and water. Less tin foods. I suppose it all depends on how inhabited the route is which you are planning on taking.
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Exactly, on a second trip it's much less the unknown, even if people do tell you the first time you go you're probably still going to over prepare.
Better for you 110 lads mind, be tight in the 90.
 
aaronmorris said:
:D sounds like a plan, the thing is I wouldn't know where to stop :eek:
I'd want tools for any eventuality, you could probably get away with one of the big hafords sets as they have a fair few sockets and the like in, plus a few other bits and bobs.
But I haven't got one, so what do you take? A set of 1/2" sockets would probably do sockets wise, but I like to have a selection for the job to make life easier.
So it'd be 1/4" 3/8" and 1/2" shallow and deep as a minimum :eek:
Plus extensions, ratchets, breaker bars and a 56mm socket.
But, but, but...... am I going to round any bolts off? I'd hope not but you never know so I'll take Irwin bolt removers too.
Oh and do I need me allen keys for all them shiny socket caps I've fitted? meh.. take them anyway :eek:
Spanners, 7-32mm, hmm nice and easy then, but do I want ratchet spanners as well? Aye probably.
Then it's hammers (several sizes) chisels, punches (various) pliers, grips, mole grips, stillsons, screwdivers and probably a lot of other stuff.
Oooh another one, impact gun? will it stay charged long enough, be handy if it did.
And spares, Christ I wouldn't even know where to start, or is that stop?
Still I know what I mean :eek: just better to have it than not and have to pay more for it over their.
Or are parts reasonable over their.
Maybe I need a 130 when I go :eek:



Exactly, on a second trip it's much less the unknown, even if people do tell you the first time you go you're probably still going to over prepare.
Better for you 110 lads mind, be tight in the 90.
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I'm just looking at storage now. Think I'm going to have to limit my tools to one tool box, then maybe one storage box full of spare parts.

It is going to be tight in the 90, but should be doable. I'm still trying to work out how I'm going to do the storage setup as I want to do a proper job.
 
james6546 said:
I'm just looking at storage now. Think I'm going to have to limit my tools to one tool box, then maybe one storage box full of spare parts.

It is going to be tight in the 90, but should be doable. I'm still trying to work out how I'm going to do the storage setup as I want to do a proper job.
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The question is, How big Is the box :p
Yeah, it'll be tight alright, but plenty doable, just needs plenty of though.
Least you'll have the roof tent up top which will help matters.
 
aaronmorris said:
:D sounds like a plan, the thing is I wouldn't know where to stop :eek:
I'd want tools for any eventuality, you could probably get away with one of the big hafords sets as they have a fair few sockets and the like in, plus a few other bits and bobs.
But I haven't got one, so what do you take? A set of 1/2" sockets would probably do sockets wise, but I like to have a selection for the job to make life easier.
So it'd be 1/4" 3/8" and 1/2" shallow and deep as a minimum :eek:
Plus extensions, ratchets, breaker bars and a 56mm socket.
But, but, but...... am I going to round any bolts off? I'd hope not but you never know so I'll take Irwin bolt removers too.
Oh and do I need me allen keys for all them shiny socket caps I've fitted? meh.. take them anyway :eek:
Spanners, 7-32mm, hmm nice and easy then, but do I want ratchet spanners as well? Aye probably.
Then it's hammers (several sizes) chisels, punches (various) pliers, grips, mole grips, stillsons, screwdivers and probably a lot of other stuff.
Oooh another one, impact gun? will it stay charged long enough, be handy if it did.
And spares, Christ I wouldn't even know where to start, or is that stop?
Still I know what I mean :eek: just better to have it than not and have to pay more for it over their.
Or are parts reasonable over their.
Maybe I need a 130 when I go :eek:



Exactly, on a second trip it's much less the unknown, even if people do tell you the first time you go you're probably still going to over prepare.
Better for you 110 lads mind, be tight in the 90.
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Bear in mind you will be going as a group and everyone will have tools etc.
What one doesn't have the other might. We will do a stocktake before hand nearer the time to see who is taking what. My view is your not going to do a full rebuild in the desert, more of a get you to a garage type of repair. If your vehicle is well maintained and you take it steady you shouldn't expect too much trouble. I think the main areas you should look at is Drive train and cooling system. I see you have fitted a bigger motor in your 90, what have you done about the diffs?
 
As a meet can I suggest somewhere around Reading - just over 2 hours from Wales for me - say one day at weekend 24/25 January - any other time or location ok by me though am away from mid February.
 
mikescuba said:
Bear in mind you will be going as a group and everyone will have tools etc.
What one doesn't have the other might. We will do a stocktake before hand nearer the time to see who is taking what. My view is your not going to do a full rebuild in the desert, more of a get you to a garage type of repair. If your vehicle is well maintained and you take it steady you shouldn't expect too much trouble. I think the main areas you should look at is Drive train and cooling system. I see you have fitted a bigger motor in your 90, what have you done about the diffs?
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Yeah, I thinks that's a good point, I'd just feel better if I have everything myself, although probably not possible and much easier to split between everyone.
In all fairness I should have no problems as I've just done a complete rebuild, but my mind says always expect the unexpected.
I was thinking the more you can do the better and to be fair I didn't realise garage charges where so reasonable, until Oldun said what he had done.

Yes I've fitted a cummins 6bt, so a big old lump, and you also mention drive train.
This is where my concern lies and is why I'm unsure of my vehicle suitability as posted the other day.
As of yet it isn't finished, and I have standard axle internals which is a massive worry, Ashcroft internals are the ideal but massive money :(
And is part and parcel of why I was worried about the time scale for this trip.
 
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